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Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Digilux 2 short hands-on now Canon didn't play
From: "Don Dory" <dorysrus@mindspring.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:55:43 -0500

Daniel,
Canon did not choose to participate in the test so there was no way to
comment.  I can say that the current Canon P&S offerings are ever so
slightly not as good compared to offerings from Panasonic, Olympus,
Fuji, and even the new Sony's from the 8X10's I have printed in my own
personal search to the digital world.

My real problem with digital is the cost in time and dollars for film is
not overshadowing the loss of image I would get from switching from an
M.  I can get the quality with the E1 or the 1DsII but at a lot of money
and size and weight for a kit.

Don
dorysrus@mindspring.com
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Daniel
Ridings
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 8:06 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Digilux 2 short hands-on test

Well Don, that was interesting, because image quality (without going to
extremes) is what it is all about, isn't it?

You didn't happen to see how they compared to the upper line of p/s from
Canon did you?

I'm asking (and following this debate) because I actually _am_
interested
in a p/s digital sidekick.

The positive aspect of the D II that the German magazine brought up was
that you could get some shallow depth of field with the Summicron since
it
is so much more faster (which I would want, when EI is only 400 max).
For
me the p/s is just to have as a sidekick. It's probably a dream too. I'm
stubborn enough to keep picking up the M2 as my sidekick.

Daniel



On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Don Dory wrote:

> All,
> Looking at actual results under controlled conditions, the Digilux II
> looked better at 16X20 than the Olympus E1.  At 16X20 the II looked
> better than the 5060 or the 8080? ( 8MP Olympus P&S ) at 11X14 during
> the DIMA shoot out.  So if image quality is why you are looking at non
> DSLR's then the Panasonic and Leica offerings should still be on the
> table of consideration.
>
> Other factors including size, ergonomics, and price of course still
come
> into play.
>
> Don
> dorysrus@mindspring.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Ridings
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:22 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Digilux 2 short hands-on test
>
> > The C5060 is an excellent high-end P&S. It's viewfinder is nothing
to
> > write home about, but beyond that, I have no complaints. Of course
> it's
> > nowhere near as 'cool' as the Digi2. But frankly, it doesn't
surprise
> me
> > at all that it came out even with, or slightly ahead of the digi2.
>
> Just to be clear (and correct), your statement should read: "slightly
> ahead of the Panasonic". The digi2 wasn't tested (will be next month)
> but
> they did give the reader a comparison between the Panasonic and the
> Digilux 2 (the bundled software).
>
> Now, I doubt that the extra price tag will necessarily give it the
edge
> over the Panasonic and thus the Olympus :)
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> That
> > is, essentially, the point I've been trying to make since the Digi2
> was
> > announced- Hey, gang, it's an $1800! friggin point and shoot, with a
> > essentially the same tiny sensor the $500-700 point and shoots have.
> But
> > hey, it looks like a Leica - so it must be worth 3x what similar
> cameras
> > cost. ;-)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Eric
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 6:25 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: [Leica] Re: Digilux 2 short hands-on test
> >
> >
> > Daniel:
> >
> > >FOTO (a German magazine) compared the Panasonic DMC-LC1 (Digilux 2)
> to
> > >the Olympus C-5060 (Olympus came out every so slightly on top
> >
> > I bought my wife the C-5060 for Christmas.  She loves it.  I'm
> impressed
> > for a point & shoot digital.  Lots of nice features.  It was $600.
> That
> > doesn't bode well for either Panasonic or Leica if the $600 camera
> comes
> > out slightly ahead over something 2-3x its price.
> >
> >
> > Eric
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