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Subject: Re: [Leica] Fw: looking for line pairs with a stabiliser and a Leica and question
From: "animal" <s.jessurun95@chello.nl>
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:02:35 +0100
References: <010101c3ca67$4cf82940$6501a8c0@CCA4A5EF37E11E>

we want to take pictures of something from our workplace at night
What else?
silly man

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From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 10:45 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Fw: looking for line pairs with a stabiliser and a
Leica and question


> And, just out of curiosity, this has what to do with photography or any
> real world use of Leica equipment? Just wondering. ;-)
>
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> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of animal
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 3:58 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: [Leica] Fw: looking for line pairs with a stabiliser and a
> Leica and question
>
>
> Sorry for the earlier empty post.
> Here goes.
> A collegue and myself wanted to find out if we could get 80 line pairs
> per millimeter using a Leica and a Kenyon gyro stabiliser. We could not
> find those data in literature so last night, while also doing a test of
> Laphroig versus Lagavullin, we decided to give it a try ourselves.
>
> We scribbled some lines on a piece of paper with a group of line pairs
> one 1 cm per pair and the other 5 mm per pair. With a Noctilux 18 meters
> away we calculated the image on the film to be 36 and 72 line pairs per
> millimeter. We suspended the camera and running gyro from a bungee cord
> and started. First exposure was at 1/250 second and f1.0 going in stops
> to 1 second and f16.0.
>
> Then we tried the same sequence while handholding the camera and bracing
> ourselves in a doorway.
>
> By then we became to doubt the ability of a 4000 dpi scanner to resolve
> our results. While one would assume that 4000 dpi translates to 80 line
> pairs per millimeter,some knowledgeable people we asked suggested that
> 60lp/mm is about the best such a scanner can do. So we had to aim a
> little lower and did the same test with an aasummicron90 mm and the
> stabiliser starting at 1/60 and f2.0  .
>
> Although our test was hastily done it still yielded some suprises to us.
> The biggest being that the stabiliser clearly is able to permit shots at
> 1 second. Others were that the noctilux was still giving good results at
> f 4.0 and 5.6 and stayed that way until f16.(we realise that the focus
> shift of the lens could have been to our advantage at those apertures if
> we started out with a focus error). Also suprising was that at f 8.0 and
> smaller the summicron image is starting to fade. Lastly it shows that it
> is hard to find the testcard when handholding the camera. On the page
> the first column is the stabilised noctilux the second is the same
> handheld(stopping at 1/8th) and the last is the summicron. The film used
> was Kodak E100 GX . The  question is to get rid of focusing errors .can
> one set the lens accurately at infinity just by putting the index on
> thatmarkingAnd if so at what distance would one have to put the target?
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/apekop/folder-6004.html
> best regards
> simon jessurun
>
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