Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/11/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Well if you have seen a few instances of it in one tv market, Jerry, then that MUST justify making a blanket statement about all videographers... ;-) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry Lehrer Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 11:58 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] DEADLINE I*AQ -answering Jerry Sonny A true PJ supplies the story as well as the photos. This is NOT the case with several San Diego TV stations. And I have seen the case very close up. Jerry Sonny Carter wrote: > Jerry, > > Do not call me Sonny boy. I am polite to you, I expect the same from > you. > > I don't believe you have seen the work close up. I believe you are > incorrect about the situation there. > > Sonny > > Monday, November 24, 2003, 7:43:26 PM, you wrote: > > JL> Sonny > > JL> No, sonny-boy, I have seen how they work here in San Diego. The TV > JL> cameraman just aims the camera where he/ she is told to. > > JL> Your contention may very well be true in other areas. Please > JL> notice that I said that TV stations HERE, do that. Other places > JL> do have true PJs. You, very well, may be one of them. > > JL> Jerry > > JL> Sonny Carter wrote: > > >> Monday, November 24, 2003, 5:15:55 PM, you wrote: > >> > >> JL> Sonny > >> > >> JL> Some TV stations here have the nerve to call the camera holders > >> JL> "Photo Journalists"! All they do is point the camera where the > >> JL> reporter or director tells them to! > >> > >> JL> Jerry > >> > >> Jerry, > >> > >> I like to think you are wrong about that. If you have that > >> attitude, you denigrate some really fine journalists who happen to > >> be photographers rather than reporters. > >> > >> Many times, the photographer is the one to get the story, a > >> producer writes it and an anchor reads it. > >> > >> That said, in many many markets there is no team, just the > >> reporter/cameraman (one person) out there doing the job. > >> > >> For a number of years, I covered the Louisiana Legislature without a > >> reporter along. I covered the Clay Shaw Trial in New Orleans without > >> a reporter. I covered the Black Panther Shoot-out in Desire > >> Project without a reporter. > >> > >> I covered the Christmas Day fire in New Orleans that killed three > >> firemen without a reporter. > >> > >> There were many more instances, but it was more often me showing > >> the reporter what to do than the other way around. > >> > >> Finally, I would tell you that when I worked on the Jim Metcalf > >> Journal at WWL-TV, I would shoot the piece, and Jim would look at > >> my film and write the story. For work like that we won one of > >> Channel 4's several Peabody Awards. > >> > >> Sonny > >> http://www.sonc.com > >> > >> JL> Sonny Carter wrote: > >> > >> >> Hello Tim, > >> >> > >> >> I'd like to point out that in television "Camera operators" > >> >> designates fixed camera positions, such as you might find in a > >> >> studio. > >> >> > >> >> Although I am no longer in that number, even though we stopped > >> >> using motion picture film for news coverage, those of us who > >> >> continued with video camera, continued to call ourselves news > >> >> photographers. A few use the term "news videographer." > >> >> > >> >> I know you want to maintain accuracy. > >> >> > >> >> Sonny > >> >> > >> >> Monday, November 24, 2003, 4:04:30 PM, you wrote: > >> >> > >> >> TA> Those of you north of the border (or south who are close > >> >> TA> enough to it to get > >> >> TA> CBC) - this is a very compelling documentary about news gathering in the > >> >> TA> Ira* Wa*. > >> >> > >> >> TA> "These are the stories that weren't't told by the media > >> >> TA> during the Ira* wa*. CBC NEWS goes straight to the source, > >> >> TA> to journalists, camera operators and photographers from news > >> >> TA> organizations around the world, who reveal the lethal risks > >> >> TA> they faced, as well as the untold horrors they witnessed." > >> >> > >> >> TA> There was a one hour version on last night. The full two > >> >> TA> hour version is supposed on next Sunday on CBC at 10pm I > >> >> TA> think. > >> >> > >> >> TA> tim > >> >> > >> >> TA> -- > >> >> TA> To unsubscribe, see > >> >> TA> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Best regards, > >> >> Sonny mailto:sonc@sonc.com > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> To unsubscribe, see > >> >> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > >> > >> JL> -- > >> JL> To unsubscribe, see > >> JL> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Sonny mailto:sonc@sonc.com > >> > >> -- > >> To unsubscribe, see > >> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > JL> -- > JL> To unsubscribe, see > JL> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > Best regards, > Sonny mailto:sonc@sonc.com > > -- > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html