Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/10/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Cleveland Amory decided to rent a prop-driven flat boat to go out and "save" the starving deer in the everglades one year. After his boat hit and killed a number of starving deer (hard to slam on the brakes in them boats), he went back to being a tv critic. Jeffery - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of John Collier Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 12:57 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] something something and now animals I am not a PETA member myself but those I know do a remarkable job of not living off the avails of animal cruelty. I admire their dogged persistence and concern about how they live might affect others. I agree that some animal testing is necessary but certainly not to the extent that it is practiced now. I welcome the pressure PETA and others have put on the scientific and cosmetic industries to improve their practices. I also agree that, as with all radicals, PETA and others often go to far. It is an opening into the broader debate of what consciousness and intelligence are. Should other "lesser" organisms be sacrificed to marginally improve our life span* (and looks)? Are we the only holders of these attributes we like to call human? The fact that once you acknowledge that other organisms may also be sentient makes it difficult to draw a definite line in the sand does not mean we should ignore the issue outright. John Collier *The most significant factors in our increased longevity are remarkably simple: ready access to potable water, ready access to food, improved sanitation and general cleanliness. The rest has had very little effect. It may make great headlines but not much more than that. On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 09:48 AM, B. D. Colen wrote: > My suggestion is that anyone who take a public position against the > use of animals in medical - not cosmetic, etc., but medical - > research, or who donates to PETA, should be barred from ever receiving > any medication or medical treatment whose development involved the use > of non-human animals. No antibiotics - no polio vaccine for the kids - > no advance surgical help - no chemo- nada. Let them put their lives > and those of their children and grandchildren where their love of > animals resides. [NO smiley. Not even a glimmer.] - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html