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Subject: Re: I]: [Leica] Annie Leibovitz 4Ted and Meds
From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:48:52 -0800
References: <ed264eae672843bb8b7adf0f2baecba6.LEICA-USER@ISPWEST.COM>

Ruddy und Ted

Why don't you both stop, please.  I'm not asking you both to shake hands and make
up, just please stop.

Jerry

LEICA-USER@ispwest.com wrote:

> I am actually smiling Ted, because I am in no way angry or in any way upset at any of the
> emails.  In fact for as infrequently as I offer up any opinion, I think I deserve to be able to
> do this now and then.
>
> I just believe good or bad, photography has its place.  And if i say so, then the different
> genres have their place..so on this road, Anne has a place.  I do not even own her book.  I
> do not like it enough to invest in it... however I do believe that her work is still good enough
> to be noted as such instead of being dragged around as if she does not have the marbles
> to join the BIG MAN's GAME.  Irrespective of how we feel about her work..I think she still
> adds something to photography, her work can stand up on their own..it is not shitty,
> although half of us would be caught dead doing it....I still think on its own it deserve3s its
> due.
>
> And as for being a shit disturber hey, one day you find yourself with a stick, your walking
> leisurely through the park and you bump into some shit...what are you going to do...today
> is my day to "disturb the shit..."so I have been poking.  Sorry mate..it is really not personal.
> I am sure you have seen and read that I was not attacking your skill or your legacy asa
> photog.
>
> Peace
> Ruddy Roye
> P.S.
> The Meds I take:  I like wine Pastelles...they are made in London, if you see any..send it to
> Tamarkin.
> Cheers mate
>
> > Say Ruddy mon ami, you do seem to be a bit of a shit disturber, don't you
> > think old boy?
> >
> > I mean after all, certainly the way you've come down on a couple of the lads
> > in a rather provocative manner is it possible your medications may have run
> > out? If that's case may I offer a gift from Canada of your refill meds? I'll
> > send them along in your next CARE package.
> >
> > Mailed to, Tamarkins I believe?
> > ted
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <LEICA-USER@ispwest.com>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 7:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re: Re[3]: [Leica] Annie Leibovitz
> >
> >
> > > Here is another dumb posting
> > > My name is Ruddy Roye.....so you know that I am not trying to hide from
> > you or anyone on
> > > the LUG.
> > > If this fool (who is going by the name of Ted Grant) was a photographer,
> > then they would
> > > know that even if they had all the "Famous Mags" in his back pocket,
> > Access to these
> > > "Famous people" is one of the most important element in creating someone
> > like Anne.
> > > Access, Access, Access, I do not care how good a photographer you are,
> > famous people
> > > do not just drop right in front of you...you have to be doing some kinda
> > leg work...not
> > > hating on other photographers who happened to have the breaks and is able
> > to perform
> > > after getting that break.  Ted you need to ask one question, why isn't
> > these mags investing
> > > in the no-name photographers.  Why did they give Anne the job...here is an
> > > answer...."Maybe they knew she could delever," how  about that?
> > >
> > > Peace
> > > >
> > > > > Hello LEICA-USER,
> > > > >
> > > > > Amazing Post.  From my point of view, stealth posting, no Name.  Also
> > hard
> > > > > to figure out what the hell you are saying from your stealth position.
> > > > > I must be too damn shallow to understand you. Are you saying everyone
> > > > > should love Annie?  Or do exactly what she does?  Or throw our Leicas
> > > > > in the river?  'fes up! tell us what the hell you really mean.<<<
> > > >
> > > > Sonny,
> > > > Thanks as I'd started a post to "whomever this person is" and trashed
> > it.
> > > > Damn I hate it when people who are anonymous when they post with some
> > dumb
> > > > ass name or number. Particularly when they're on a rant.
> > > >
> > > > Yep and I can't understand what he / she is trying to say either and
> > whether
> > > > it's good, bad or ugly.
> > > >
> > > > But one thing not  addressed is.... Annie wouldn't be as "famous as she
> > is"
> > > > if it weren't for the magazines whom she shoot for who opened the doors
> > to
> > > > the Big Name people she photographed.
> > > >
> > > > Quite simply, big name mag wants to do publicity story... Big Name
> > publicity
> > > > seeker says yes!
> > > >
> > > > Annie comes up with weird idea, asks publicity seekers to do weird
> > things
> > > > and dress outlandishly, they co-operate and she makes her name off them
> > > > doing it and being published in Rolling Stone and or whatever big name
> > > > magazines.
> > > >
> > > > If they were ordinary John and Mary folks we may never have heard of
> > her.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway a name from Leica whomever would be nice. Thank you whomever.
> > > > ted
> > > > Ted Grant Photography Limited
> > > > www.islandnet.com/~tedgrant
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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