Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/10/04

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Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: software, engineering, and microsoft
From: "Jack Herron" <jherron@theriver.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:43:16 -0700
References: <1CA8E840-F6C2-11D7-A4E2-0003939F0384@kvdpsu.org> <r02000200-1030-939CA960F6C511D7AAD8003065F48752@[10.0.1.4]> <6.0.0.22.0.20031004191704.01b87f20@pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com> <3F7F71F8.7060903@cox.net>

Actually, it was Microsoft that was giving away IE, as part of  the os.
Netscape was better, but cost.  Netscape sued, but wound  up being forced to
give away the software,  as the customers were more interested in price than
value.
Jack Herron
8118 E. 20th St.
Tucson, AZ 85710
520 885-6933
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From: "Mike Durling" <durling@cox.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: software, engineering, and microsoft


> That article is two years old and is outdated.  Check out the Mozilla
> browsers, and by reference, Netscape 7 which uses the same code.
> Extraordinarily nice browsers that do everything that IE does with the
> added benefit of allowing you to simply disable popups.  Add to that an
> excellent integrated email client that doesn't run malicious code.
> Mozilla also runs on more operating systems than IE ever does.  I am
> using this on Linux and care not a wit that Microsoft will never release
> IE for that platform.  Mac support is excellent too.
>
> Contrary to what some have said 99.9% or more web pages work fine with
> the Mozilla browsers.  I look at everyone's photos and there is only one
> LUG photographer whose web pages have a problem under this browser.
>
> It is a shame that Netscape lost the marketing war before their
> open-source efforts paid off.  Still, Mozilla lives on and will continue
> to thrive.
>
> Mike D
>
> Clive Moss wrote:
> > Greatness is not the issue. Netscape was giving browser software away
> > free at no cost. So was Microsoft. The Microsoft product worked better,
> > so people used it. No real users care about innovation. They care about
> > usability. I have always had multiple browsers on my desktop. Microsoft
> > may not have won based on innovation, but Netscape surely lost.
> >
> > See http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3514_7-5020639-1.html?legacy=cnet for a
> > consumer oriented view of the battle. The key phrase is
> > "Netscape--outdated, slow, and unstable--went down for the count."
> > Business practises notwithstanding, IE worked better.
> >
> >
> > At 06:50 PM 10/4/2003, Adam Bridge wrote:
> >
> >> So Microsoft did nothing great - beyond applying their immense amount
> >> of cash
> >> into purchasing a solution and applying their own monopoly to its best
> >> advantage.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best,
> > Clive
> > http://clive.moss.net
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In reply to: Message from Pete Su <psu@kvdpsu.org> ([Leica] OT: software, engineering, and microsoft)
Message from Adam Bridge <abridge@mac.com> (Re: [Leica] OT: software, engineering, and microsoft)
Message from Clive Moss <chmphoto@sbcglobal.net> (Re: [Leica] OT: software, engineering, and microsoft)
Message from Mike Durling <durling@cox.net> (Re: [Leica] OT: software, engineering, and microsoft)