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Subject: Re: [Leica] Shooting question - an Operating Room
From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:41:15 -0700
References: <FE1DA49E-EEAB-11D7-B6AB-000A95857E92@twcny.rr.com>

Ernie

In my senior year at college, I had a job photographing most
of the Cesarean section operations at Parkchester General
Hospital.  I used two Rolleis. followed all the recommendations
that were given here. No problems at all, even though there
was more blood than in modern operations, (Vertical
incision rather than horizontal)  The extra moneys bought me
an MG TD Mk II.

Ernest Nitka wrote:

> And I would add to what Jack has said - if your queasy about blood ( or
> not sure) please try not to see much of it.  Take if from experience
> watching my first surgeries as a 2nd year med student - nothing like
> gravity to bring you to your senses - although I was lucky to be caught
> on the way down by a lovely angel of mercy :)
>
> My cure was to have black coffee ( preferrably from a Bunn-o-Matic)
> circulating well before hand.
>
> ernie
> On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 11:28 AM, Jack McLain wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >> One more thing - once I've got what I need, am I stuck in there? -
> >> these
> >> operations can go hours I understand.
> >> Steven
> >
> > No, it should'nt be a problem leaving (coming back might be). The
> > Circulating Nurse will often leave for supplies, clinical data, etc.
> > It is
> > also not unheard of for the surgeon(s) and Scrug Nurse(s) to leave for
> > various reasons during surgery, but they would have to re-scrub before
> > entering the field. Some operations go on for a L O N G time (neuro in
> > particular) others are over very quickly.
> >
> > I used to be an OR Nurse in a much earlier incarnation.  All the
> > advice you
> > have been given is right-on; the primary rule is dont touch a damn
> > thing,
> > dont trip up on sponge buckets, cables, tubes or wires, if you feel
> > the need
> > to cough, move to the periphery of the room.  The floors can get wet
> > and
> > slippery.
> >
> > Keep an eye out for what the Circulating Nurse is doing.  More often
> > than
> > not she will be standing or sitting quietly; if she (or he come to
> > thnk of
> > it) suddenly gets active, there is the possibility that something
> > dramatic
> > is going on.  OR Staff are very stoic in demonstrating alarm or
> > excitement
> > so you might miss body language clues that would be evident in less
> > controlled environments. The activity of the Circulating Nurse is a
> > good
> > barometer of normality, as is conversation between the
> > Anesthesiologist and
> > the Surgeon; listen to these conversations for clues.
> >
> > I would be circumspect about photographing the face of the patient
> > (but that
> > is obvious I'm sure).
> >
> > I sould suggest actually speaking with the Surgeon in Charge prior to
> > the
> > surgery and ask for an explanation of what to expect (and what he
> > expects of
> > you).  Surgeons are notoriously egocentric, and LOVE to talk about
> > themselves and the importantce of their work.
> >
> > good luck
> > Jack McLain
> > Tucson, AZ
> > http://jackmclain-photography.dotcommunity.net
> >
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