[Leica] Mein Kampf - are you that naive?

[Jim Hemenway <Jim@hemenway.com>]

Notwithstanding your statement  "don't fool yourself in thinking we are 
any different or more righteous in our actions or potential actions in 
this world.  There is plenty of blood on our hands and we are not as 
democratic as we believe."....  how can you believe anything that you 
may have read in Mein Kampf?  It's about as believeable as the writings 
of the Raelians.

Jim - http://www.hemenway.com



Saganich, Christopher/Medical Physics wrote:

> Hitler's success in swaying the public mind, the techniques he used, were developed in the US for WWI.  In Mein Kampf, he described the overall success of the American Propaganda system and how it led to the German defeat.  While fascist Hitler was creating a totalitarian propaganda system for Germany, democrat Harold Laswell was creating it's democratic brother in the US.  
> Why is totalitarian propaganda universality condemned in the West as the loss of personal and democratic freedom, while the management of public opinion in democracy is considered good business?  
> Hitler came to power in a democracy, and only within a democracy could he have harnessed the power of propaganda for such an irrational end.  In other words, the Soviets who have no democratic history, couldn't manage their public mind. The system is powerful and not to be underrated.  As we have today, propaganda is a mainstream industry known as public relations and advertising.  The name has changed but the techniques have been refined and improved.  If you wish to condemn Frau Riefenstahl for her crude and obvious propaganda film making, fine, but don't fool yourself in thinking we are any different or more righteous in our actions or potential actions in this world.  There is plenty of blood on our hands and we are not as democratic as we believe.
> 
> Chris Saganich
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bdcolen@earthlink.net [mailto:bdcolen@earthlink.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:55 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Leni Riefenstahl has died at age 101
> 
> No, Chris, she was a Nazi propagandist who knew precisely what she was
> doing, and who's film, which you view as a simply documentary, has been
> oft credited with helping Hitler win broad support in Germany and
> beyond.
> 
> We all make choices in this life, and we are ultimately judged by those
> choices.
> 
> B. D.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Saganich,
> Christopher/Medical Physics
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:44 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Leni Riefenstahl has died at age 101
> 
> 
> BD,
> 
> How is that?  Was she GW Bush in disguise?
> 
> Chris Saganich
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bdcolen@earthlink.net [mailto:bdcolen@earthlink.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:01 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Leni Riefenstahl has died at age 101
> 
> The world is a better place - for her having left it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Dan C
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:33 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: [Leica] Leni Riefenstahl has died at age 101
> 
> 
> (CNN) -- Photographer and filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl, best known for the
> Nazi propaganda films Triumph of the Will and Olympia, has died at the
> age of 101. 
> 
> Dan C.
> 
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