Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/09/06

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Subject: Re: [Leica] MP or M7, which one has better build quality
From: John Collier <>
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 21:39:43 -0600

The M6 and M6TTL cameras -- and the original MP for that matter -- use 
steel gears in the winding mechanism. These take a long long time to 
wear in and smooth out. My first TTL, with more than 500 rolls through 
it, is starting to feel as smooth as my M2. With the MP, Leica has used 
machining techniques that allow steel gears to feel like the old brass 
gears. While this results in an impressively smooth wind on, it does 
not actually change the durability or potential longevity of the camera.

I cannot recall the actual figure but an M camera should be good for 
about half a million exposures before it needs major work (not counting 
CLAs). This translates into about 14,000 rolls of 36 exposure film. 
Quite frankly, the thought of using a rewind knob for the 500+ rolls so 
far. let alone the rest of the 14,000, is too much for me.

The improved viewfinder of the MP and the newer M7 is very helpful and 
had me looking at replacing my much loved TTLs for that reason alone. 
Now that Leica has made the MP improvements available to us mere mortal 
M6 owners, I will just have my cameras upgraded. That way I get the 
best of both worlds. An all mechanical, crank rewind camera with a long 
service life and the best viewfinder in the world.

I do not dispute the fact that you are delighted with your MP. I hope 
you will not dispute my preference for a rewind crank nor my advice 
that, in terms of service life, the M6TTL will be just as good as the 

John Collier

On Saturday, September 6, 2003, at 06:17 PM, Jon wrote:

> For what it's worth...I have an M6TTL and an MP. The MP has a much 
> better
> build quality, regardless of the size of the rewind knob.

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