Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/09/02
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Hi BD!
Help here, who's Jock Sturgis?
rich
bdcolen wrote:
> The angry little boy with the toy hand grenade in his hand - wearing
> shorts and a patterned, short sleeve shirt? The retarded adults in
> Halloween costumes?...She started as a fashion photographer, I believe,
> and did quite well at that, and went on to take ...well...Johnny's
> welcome to categorize it.
>
> She is, though considered to have been a major figure in American
> photography.
> But then there are those who consider Jock Sturgis a great photo artist,
> so what can I say...;-)
>
> B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry
> Lehrer
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 6:16 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] New photos
>
> Johnny
>
> I may be out of the loop, but I don't remember seeing any of her photos.
> What did she shoot? When? Where? Or maybe I have seen her photos
> without associating her name with them.
>
> Jerry
>
> Johnny Deadman wrote:
>
> > Well I'm glad we've dispensed with Diane Arbus that easily. I am sure
> > she would speak very highly of your photography as well.
> >
> > On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, at 04:32 PM, bdcolen wrote:
> >
> > > Amen!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Ken
> > > Firestone
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM
> > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] New photos
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Ted Grant wrote:
> > >
> > > bdcolen offered:
> > >> I may come across at times as a mean, demented s.o.b, but no way
> > > would I
> > >> EVER do to people what she did to her victims, uh, subjects.:-)
> > >>
> > >> B. D.
> > >> Not A Diane Arbus Fan<<<<
> > >
> > > Hi B.D.,
> > > Well you can chalk me up big time as another non-admirer of her
> > > degrading
> > > pictures of unfortunate human beings. Regardless what some people
>
> > > think are
> > > works of art!:-(
> > >
> > > I've seen her as an opportunist taking advantage of human beings
> > > who were
> > > already being exploited by others and all she did was add to the
> > > exploitation.
> > >
> > > Besides all she did was use the medium of photography to capture
> > > the image
> > > of these unfortunate souls and it didn't take any great
> > > photographic eye or
> > > skill to shoot what she did. Like stand there ... SNAP... next!
> > > Not much
> > > talent required to do that.
> > >
> > > I had a freind once who during a discussion of Ms. Arbus expressed
> > > the opinion that she was crying with her subjects. She was pretty
> > > messed up herself.
> > >
> > >
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> > > ===
> > > =
> > > ====
> > > Ken Firestone, W3CAT | For every problem there is one solution
> > > kenf@speakeasy.net | which is simple, neat, and wrong.
> > > ken@firestone.net | -- H. L. Mencken
> > >
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