Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/08/29

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Subject: RE: [Leica] National Geographic scandal
From: Allen Graves <ahgraves@prodigy.net>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:57:05 -0500
References: <001301c36e31$f1a76c40$92121f43@ccasony01>

I got the feeling that these guys were accusing NG of essentially 
creating a still life shot -dead bug+stuffed bird + an aquarium (or 
its digital equivalent)- rather than just cutting a hole in a nest 
cavity and manipulating nature. This argument seems to be raging 
particularly fiercely in the "Nature Photo" camp right now, even more 
than in the "News Photo" world. I don't think that there's going to 
be any resolution of this any time soon- or any end to these 
"scandals".

Allen



>Am I not correct in thinking that many times over the years the Geo has
>in fact shown in great detail how it is "set up" nature shots, closing
>off a little area of a stream with Plexiglas, cutting a piece out of a
>tree to create a window onto a nest, etc. etc. I've always assumed that
>these kinds of things were done...realistically, how else would one get
>allot of these kinds of shots?
>
>B. D.
>
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>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Douglas
>Herr
>Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:09 PM
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: Re: [Leica] National Geographic scandal
>
>
>Phong <phong@doan-ltd.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>  If it's staged, it's staged.  I don't have any problem
>>  with that.  Just say it's so.  Just say that you have
>>  better things to do than waiting for those silly birds,
>>  and I'd understand.
>
>This photo was not labeled as staged.  If it's staged it misrepresents
>the kingfisher and its behavior.  No matter how careful a human is to
>re-create actual animal behavior or habitat we're going to miss some
>detail(s) that may be vital to understanding what makes the critter
>'tick'.
>
>
>Doug Herr
>Birdman of Sacramento
>http://www.wildlightphoto.com
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