Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/08/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]By this standard you are no doubt the most "honored" person on the Lug...by far. Regards, Greg bdcolen wrote: >Of course you don't believe you're receiving those posts, Greg. But let >me suggest that you improve your life by simply using the instructions >that were provided earlier in the week for deleting unwanted Email - >just send my posts straight to your trash folder. Not only won't I be >insulted; I'll feel honored. ;-) > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Greg J. >Lorenzo >Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 1:03 PM >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >Subject: Re: [Leica] digitalrebel > > > > >bdcolen wrote: > > > >>Well, I may be missing something here, Gregie, but I don't see any >>contradiction in what I've written. >> >> >> >Your right. In most of your posts to the LUG (and some "totally" not on >the LUG posts) lately your missing common decency and common sense. > > > >>And I do not denigrate all things >>Leica - only Leicadolatory. >> >> >> >I suggest you reread what you write and the original posts that >precipitated your post. > > > >>If I wanted to denigrate all things Leica I >>wouldn't own and use the equipment. >> >> >> >Just what is your excuse then? > > > >>I do find utterly ludicrous the myth >>that if something is manufactured by Leica it automatically: 1. Is the >>best; 2. Is the perfect solution for every photographic situation, or >>every photographer; >>3. Makes one a competent photographer. >> >> >> >Just who is it that is posting this utterly ludicrous myth on the Lug? I > >don't seem to be receiving these posts. > > > >>If my believing that, and stating it in various ways, suggests to you >>that I denigrate all things Leica, you must assign far different >>meanings to words than I. Which is of course your right. :-) >> >> >> >> >Yes, your the Lug's original Rebel Without a Cause, but in this role >your also frequently the major reason (cause) many people new to this >list flock elsewhere. > >Regards, > >Greg > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Greg J. >>Lorenzo >>Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:12 PM >>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>Subject: Re: [Leica] digitalrebel >> >> >>bdcolen in his ongoing desire to continually enlighten the rest of us >>dimwits without B.D's "digital vision" wrote in part: >> >> >> >> >> >>>Steve - You miss the point, and manage to be patronizing while missing >>>it - as usual.;-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>I have NOTHING against anyone being happy with what ever form of >>>photographic equipment - from a Box Brownie to a gold-plated, ostrich >>>skin-covered Leica MP meets their photographic needs. None what so >>>ever. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>And I have never written anything suggesting that I do. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Now this explains it. Apparently you don't actually read what you write >>before you post it to the list! >> >> >> >> >> >>>I have also >>>repeatedly stated that I am still primarily using film in my own work, >>>and understand that some people are not only loath to give up film, >>> >>> >but > > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>may never - more power to you, Steve. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Yes, repeatedly. Always in a post to the list where your major theme is >>to denigrate all things Leica. >> >> >> >> >> >>>And I was not comparing the results obtainable with the latest >>>generation of M lenses - results which are, when all is said and done, >>> >>> > > > >>>beyond the power of 99.9 percent of hand-held shooter to obtain ;-) - >>>to digital results. What I am saying here is that it is utterly >>>ludicrous for those who are using 40-50-60 year-old flare-prone, >>> >>> >poorly > > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>coated lenses that when they were new were not considered the best >>>available and now don't even compare in image quality to the lenses >>> >>> >SLR > > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>manufactures sell as part of cheap packages, to be knocking digital >>>quality. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Huh? Nothing patronizing about this statement. >> >> >> >> >> >>>Again, just say "I love film." If someone loves using an III C,, or >>>III >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>F with a Summabeenobsoletefor50years or an >>>Elmarcouldntproduceasharpimageswhenitcameoutoftheboxfivedecadesago, >>>more power to them. But it sounds pretty silly for them to be knocking >>> >>> > > > >>>digital and digital cameras that in terms of pure lens and image >>>quality are generations ahead of the equipment they're using. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Ditto! >> >> >> >> >> >>>B. D. >>> >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Steve >>>LeHuray >>>Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:56 PM >>>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>>Subject: Re: [Leica] digitalrebel >>> >>> >>>B.D.Colen sings the same old song: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Again, if you're happy with film and your Rs, great - just as I am >>>>happy with my Ms and film for most of my serious work. But our >>>>preferring film for some or all our work doesn't negate the truth >>>>about where digital is now, or about the fact that many of those >>>>blindly bashing the idea of going digital are using truly obsolete >>>>equipment that produces subpar results - in fact that produces image >>>>quality that can be bested by virtually any modern SLR using consumer >>>> >>>> > > > >>>>lenses, or, for that matter, can be bested by a Bessa R using Cosina >>>>lenses costing less than $500. ;-) >>>> >>>>B. D. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>B.D. -- you have been banging the same old drum for several years now. >>>Please explain what you have against those people who are happy with >>>their Leicas. OK, a new M7 costs about $2700. Is it worth it? Probably >>> >>> > > > >>>not. But apparently it is to many who are buying them. A new Porsche >>>911 Carrera costs about $80,000. Is it worth it? Apparently so, they >>>cannot keep up with the orders. Are digicams great and the wave of the >>> >>> > > > >>>future? Yes I think they are. But so what? There are 10s of thousands >>>of people who love their Leicas and really do not need you making them >>> >>> > > > >>>feel about about liking something. So now on your 57th (Happy Birthday >>> >>> > > > >>>BTW), how about you moving on to some other crusade that is more >>>meaningful to you and something more important than your constant and >>>meaningless Leica bashing. >>> >>>Best regards, >>> >>>sl >>> >>>-- >>>To unsubscribe, see >>>http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >>> >>>-- >>>To unsubscribe, see >>>http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> >>-- >>To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> >> >> >> >> > > >-- >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > >-- >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html