Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/08/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Well, I may be missing something here, Gregie, but I don't see any contradiction in what I've written. And I do not denigrate all things Leica - only Leicadolatory. If I wanted to denigrate all things Leica I wouldn't own and use the equipment. I do find utterly ludicrous the myth that if something is manufactured by Leica it automatically: 1. Is the best; 2. Is the perfect solution for every photographic situation, or every photographer; 3. Makes one a competent photographer. If my believing that, and stating it in various ways, suggests to you that I denigrate all things Leica, you must assign far different meanings to words than I. Which is of course your right. :-) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Greg J. Lorenzo Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:12 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] digitalrebel bdcolen in his ongoing desire to continually enlighten the rest of us dimwits without B.D's "digital vision" wrote in part: >Steve - You miss the point, and manage to be patronizing while missing >it - as usual.;-) > >I have NOTHING against anyone being happy with what ever form of >photographic equipment - from a Box Brownie to a gold-plated, ostrich >skin-covered Leica MP meets their photographic needs. None what so >ever. > >And I have never written anything suggesting that I do. > Now this explains it. Apparently you don't actually read what you write before you post it to the list! >I have also >repeatedly stated that I am still primarily using film in my own work, >and understand that some people are not only loath to give up film, but >may never - more power to you, Steve. > Yes, repeatedly. Always in a post to the list where your major theme is to denigrate all things Leica. > >And I was not comparing the results obtainable with the latest >generation of M lenses - results which are, when all is said and done, >beyond the power of 99.9 percent of hand-held shooter to obtain ;-) - >to digital results. What I am saying here is that it is utterly >ludicrous for those who are using 40-50-60 year-old flare-prone, poorly >coated lenses that when they were new were not considered the best >available and now don't even compare in image quality to the lenses SLR >manufactures sell as part of cheap packages, to be knocking digital >quality. > Huh? Nothing patronizing about this statement. > >Again, just say "I love film." If someone loves using an III C,, or III >F with a Summabeenobsoletefor50years or an >Elmarcouldntproduceasharpimageswhenitcameoutoftheboxfivedecadesago, >more power to them. But it sounds pretty silly for them to be knocking >digital and digital cameras that in terms of pure lens and image >quality are generations ahead of the equipment they're using. > > Ditto! >B. D. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Steve >LeHuray >Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:56 PM >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >Subject: Re: [Leica] digitalrebel > > >B.D.Colen sings the same old song: > > >>Again, if you're happy with film and your Rs, great - just as I am >>happy with my Ms and film for most of my serious work. But our >>preferring film for some or all our work doesn't negate the truth >>about where digital is now, or about the fact that many of those >>blindly bashing the idea of going digital are using truly obsolete >>equipment that produces subpar results - in fact that produces image >>quality that can be bested by virtually any modern SLR using consumer >>lenses, or, for that matter, can be bested by a Bessa R using Cosina >>lenses costing less than $500. ;-) >> >>B. D. >> >> >> > >B.D. -- you have been banging the same old drum for several years now. >Please explain what you have against those people who are happy with >their Leicas. OK, a new M7 costs about $2700. Is it worth it? Probably >not. But apparently it is to many who are buying them. A new Porsche >911 Carrera costs about $80,000. Is it worth it? Apparently so, they >cannot keep up with the orders. Are digicams great and the wave of the >future? Yes I think they are. But so what? There are 10s of thousands >of people who love their Leicas and really do not need you making them >feel about about liking something. So now on your 57th (Happy Birthday >BTW), how about you moving on to some other crusade that is more >meaningful to you and something more important than your constant and >meaningless Leica bashing. > >Best regards, > >sl > >-- >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > >-- >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html