Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/08/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Love the quote! It seems to be the source of Strunk and White, the 40-pages Bible of "correct" English. But I'm not sure that it's really the same point. If you take out the adjectives, you minimize the probability of adding "noise", i.e., of leading people to assume that you see things in ways you don't necessarily do. That is, the probability of leading our audience to put things in the wrong context. What "abstractists" have in mind is a different thing: eliminating all possible context, so that all meaning is lost and only "pure form" remains. Sounds a little crazy, but it's logically possible. It is, of course, the exact opposite of what "documentary" photographers have in mind. Since I think that Chris is nicely documenting an interesting (for me) fact in his neighborghood, I suggested he takes the "abstract" thing off the title. It just gives the wrong context to his photograph, i.e., it adds "noise" in the sense I defined above. Achilles - --- Randy Jensen <randy@jamzcheer.com> wrote: > That reminds me of how Ernest Hemingway said to > write: > > First you write, then you take out all the > adjectives. > > > www.randyjensenphoto.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On > Behalf Of Aquiles > Almansi > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:36 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: RE: [Leica] PAW 33-abstract photography > > > I recently had the opportunity of hearing from a > photographer who has made a good reputation out of > his > "abstractions". According to this guy, to produce > abstract photography is very simple: one picks any > subject and starts taking out context until all > meaning has been lost...[:-)]and what is left stands > just on the basis of "pure" (i.e., context free, > meaningless) design.[:-), :-)....] > > > --- "Saganich, Christopher/Medical Physics" > <saganicc@MSKCC.ORG> wrote: > > Thanks, I'm not always sure about the differences > > between the abstract and the concrete. I would > > agree with you about these shots, they do fall > more > > on the concrete side of things. > > > > Chris Saganich > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aalmansi@yahoo.com > [mailto:aalmansi@yahoo.com] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:54 PM > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > Subject: Re: [Leica] PAW 33 > > > > very powerful composition Chris, and very nice > tonal > > range. > > > > I do not know if it really matters (and I think > that > > it shouldn't), but I would not call it > > "abstractions". > > I see it as a very concret fact, interesting to > > document. > > > > best regards, > > > > achilles > > --- "Saganich, Christopher/Medical Physics" > > <saganicc@MSKCC.ORG> wrote: > > > Abstractions from my neighborhood. MP, > Summicron > > > 50, Beutler/Efke kb25. > > > > > > http://www.saganich.com/paw_pages/paw33.htm > > > > > > Chris Saganich > > > http://www.saganich.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===================================================================== > > > > > > Please note that this e-mail and any files > > > transmitted with it may be > > > privileged, confidential, and protected > from > > > disclosure under > > > applicable law. If the reader of this > message > > > is not the intended > > > recipient, or an employee or agent > > responsible > > > for delivering this > > > message to the intended recipient, you are > > > hereby notified that any > > > reading, dissemination, distribution, > > copying, > > > or other use of this > > > communication or any of its attachments is > > > strictly prohibited. If > > > you have received this communication in > > error, > > > please notify the > > > sender immediately by replying to this > > message > > > and deleting this > > > message, any attachments, and all copies > and > > > backups from your > > > computer. > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, see > > > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site > > design software > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see > > > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site > design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > -- > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html