Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/08/06

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Is It "analog" or Is It Digital?
From: Barney Quinn <barney.quinn@noaa.gov>
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 07:40:27 -0400

Hi,

The Earth is Round???????

Barney


On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 08:00 PM, Jean-Michel Tomaschett wrote:

> after my troubling many luggers with mechanical watches, it is not my
> intention to launch a discussion about acoustical recordings. It is 
> just
> amazing that a lot of the so called "dead" technologies are still 
> working
> fine for the conaisseurs. And I am sure not all of them are members of 
> the
> "Flat Earth society" ;-)
>
> Regards
>
> Jean-Michel, usually speaking anything but English
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack McLain" <jmclainaz@comcast.net>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Is It "analog" or Is It Digital?
>
>
>> not true... I am certainly no proponent of "digital" music, but it 
>> does
>> exist.  Digital "tone generators" are relatively common especially in 
>> pop
>> music and increasingly in avant garde classical music.  No acoustic 
>> sound
>> whatsoever emits from the "instrument".  The sounds are entirely in 
>> the
>> digital field.  I hate the stuff (being a drummer, I especially hate 
>> "drum
>> machines").
>>
>> and yes.. a high-end turntable beats even a high-end CD player in 
>> warmth
> and
>> some inexpressible attributes that you have to hear in a well tuned 
>> room
> to
>> appreciate.
>>
>> I lost ~2 thousand LPs in a divorce..... ouch.  I'm a CD spinner now.
>> sigh......
>>
>> cheers
>> Jack
>> Jack McLain
>> Tucson, AZ
>> http://jackmclain-photography.dotcommunity.net
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jean-Michel Tomaschett" <jx@bluewin.ch>
>> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Is It "analog" or Is It Digital?
>>
>>
>>> Picture or music, the source is always analog.
>>> Vinyl records compares to film.
>>> CD's compare to digital photography.
>>> Psychoacoustics compares to
>>> I always preferred the sound of good vinyl records on a high-end 
>>> system.
>>> Psychoacoustics compares to optical psychoperception.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Jean-Michel
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jack McLain" <jmclainaz@comcast.net>
>>> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Is It "real photography" or Is It Digital?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes indeed... it is why so many of us audiophiles spend big-bucks to
>>> listen
>>>> to mucic through tube amps (even tube analog stages on CD players).
> It
>>>> seems that each digital link that can be replaced with an analog 
>>>> link
>>>> improves the sound (or makes it less "digital").
>>>>
>>>> The analogy with digital photography vs. film photography is very 
>>>> apt.
>>>> cheers
>>>> Jack
>>>> Jack McLain
>>>> Tucson, AZ
>>>> http://jackmclain-photography.dotcommunity.net
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Randy Jensen" <randy@jamzcheer.com>
>>>> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:18 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Is It "real photography" or Is It Digital?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Excellent question.  The analogy that works for me is the tube-mic
>> Dolby
>>>> SR
>>>>> analog recorded audio performance.  Yes, you listen to it on CD, 
>>>>> but
>> it
>>>>> absolutely sounds different than if it was recorded "all digital."
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a good reason vintage tube mics and compressors sell for so
>> much
>>>>> money.  They keep trying to emulate them digitally, and they're
>> getting
>>>>> better, but they still don't cut it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Randy
>>>>> www.randyjensenphoto.com
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>>>>> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Buzz
>>>>> Hausner
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:43 PM
>>>>> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Is It "real photography" or Is It Digital?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pardon this luddite's stony ignorance, but aren't they all digital
> on
>> a
>>>>> computer?
>>>>>
>>>>> Buzz Hausner
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>>>>> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of
>> Saganich,
>>>>> Christopher/Medical Physics
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:22 PM
>>>>> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>>>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] "real photography"
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a good example: can you tell if this is film or digital?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.28mm.org/gallery.php?artist=emesegaal&issue=9
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Saganich
>>>>>
>>>>>
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