Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/08/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]exactly.. If I understood you correctly, you stated that the source is "always analog". That is what I am taking issue with. With traditional instruments that is true. Sadly (IMHO) there is a movement toward "digital instruments" (a misnomer if I ever heard one) which do not emit a sound acoustically. They are tone generators and can be "played" as one would operate a computer. As a matter of fact, some very high-end recordings are still made using tube microphones, and magnetic tape and they are very state-of-the-art indeed. The "inevitability of digital" is a marketing ploy, not an absolute fact. I admit that the analog process of music reproduction is not the mainstream anymore, but neither is silver based B&W photogaphy. But, like B&W photography, there are proponents that practice the analog recording craft, and an (ever growing) appreciative audience that understands and supports the efforts, and who own the gear to hear the subtle and beautiful differences. Bits and bytes do not at this time capture the soul like analog can. cheers (off to listen to a bit of Coltrane) Jack McLain Tucson, AZ http://jackmclain-photography.dotcommunity.net - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Michel Tomaschett" <jx@bluewin.ch> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] Is It "analog" or Is It Digital? > Jack, > > first it's the source which makes the difference, then the processing or > reproducing technique, not depending on the medium, acoustical recordings or > optical shots, all the same. > Loosing 2 thousand LPs in a divorce, a very sad story. > > cheers > Jean-Michel > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack McLain" <jmclainaz@comcast.net> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:40 AM > Subject: Re: [Leica] Is It "analog" or Is It Digital? > > > > not true... I am certainly no proponent of "digital" music, but it does > > exist. Digital "tone generators" are relatively common especially in pop > > music and increasingly in avant garde classical music. No acoustic sound > > whatsoever emits from the "instrument". The sounds are entirely in the > > digital field. I hate the stuff (being a drummer, I especially hate "drum > > machines"). > > > > and yes.. a high-end turntable beats even a high-end CD player in warmth > and > > some inexpressible attributes that you have to hear in a well tuned room > to > > appreciate. > > > > I lost ~2 thousand LPs in a divorce..... ouch. I'm a CD spinner now. > > sigh...... > > > > cheers > > Jack > > Jack McLain > > Tucson, AZ > > http://jackmclain-photography.dotcommunity.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jean-Michel Tomaschett" <jx@bluewin.ch> > > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Is It "analog" or Is It Digital? > > > > > > > Picture or music, the source is always analog. > > > Vinyl records compares to film. > > > CD's compare to digital photography. > > > Psychoacoustics compares to > > > I always preferred the sound of good vinyl records on a high-end system. > > > Psychoacoustics compares to optical psychoperception. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Jean-Michel > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jack McLain" <jmclainaz@comcast.net> > > > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:58 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Is It "real photography" or Is It Digital? > > > > > > > > > > Yes indeed... it is why so many of us audiophiles spend big-bucks to > > > listen > > > > to mucic through tube amps (even tube analog stages on CD players). > It > > > > seems that each digital link that can be replaced with an analog link > > > > improves the sound (or makes it less "digital"). > > > > > > > > The analogy with digital photography vs. film photography is very apt. > > > > cheers > > > > Jack > > > > Jack McLain > > > > Tucson, AZ > > > > http://jackmclain-photography.dotcommunity.net > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Randy Jensen" <randy@jamzcheer.com> > > > > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:18 PM > > > > Subject: RE: [Leica] Is It "real photography" or Is It Digital? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Excellent question. The analogy that works for me is the tube-mic > > Dolby > > > > SR > > > > > analog recorded audio performance. Yes, you listen to it on CD, but > > it > > > > > absolutely sounds different than if it was recorded "all digital." > > > > > > > > > > There's a good reason vintage tube mics and compressors sell for so > > much > > > > > money. They keep trying to emulate them digitally, and they're > > getting > > > > > better, but they still don't cut it. > > > > > > > > > > Randy > > > > > www.randyjensenphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > > > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Buzz > > > > > Hausner > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:43 PM > > > > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > > > > Subject: [Leica] Is It "real photography" or Is It Digital? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pardon this luddite's stony ignorance, but aren't they all digital > on > > a > > > > > computer? > > > > > > > > > > Buzz Hausner > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > > > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of > > Saganich, > > > > > Christopher/Medical Physics > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:22 PM > > > > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > > > > Subject: RE: [Leica] "real photography" > > > > > > > > > > Here is a good example: can you tell if this is film or digital? > > > > > > > > > > http://www.28mm.org/gallery.php?artist=emesegaal&issue=9 > > > > > > > > > > Chris Saganich > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > To unsubscribe, see > > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > To unsubscribe, see > > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html