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Subject: RE: [Leica] Re cropping dilema
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:26:57 -0400

I'm not talking about when he first started shooting, but rather when
Magnum was founded after WWII...;-)

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of tripspud
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 2:11 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Re cropping dilema


Hi BD,

       When HCB started photographing with the early Leica, the word
'photojournalist' was unknown.  I think the term was first used in the
'50s.

Cheers,

Rich Lahrson
Berkeley, California
tripspud@transbay.net

bdcolen wrote:

> Cartier-Bresson was not really a "photojournalist -" he was a fine art

> photographer who took on some photojournalism assignments. Never 
> forget the story about Capa telling HCB to call himself a 
> photojournalist because if he called himself a surrealist photographer

> no one would ever hire him. :-) B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Peterson

> Arthur G NSSC
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 1:34 PM
> To: 'leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us'
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Re cropping dilema
>
>                 Eric is right, of course. In terms of this 
> cropping/editing/retouching debate, there's a world of difference 
> between reportage and fine art.  A journalist, either photographic or 
> in writing, has a basic purpose quite different from that of a 
> novelist or fine arts photographer, and so he operates under a set of 
> rules that the artist can safely ignore.  That is not to say, however,

> that what a "photojournalist" like Cartier-Bresson created cannot be 
> fine art; obviously it is.
>
>                 Art Peterson
>                 Alexandria, Virginia
>
>                 -----Original Message-----
>                 From:   Eric Welch [mailto:eric@jphotog.com]
>                 Sent:   Thursday, July 31, 2003 1:48 AM
>                 To:     leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>                 Subject:        Re: [Leica] Re cropping dilema
>
>                 I think he was referring to news writers.
>
>                 Novelists are a whole different animal. Making things 
> up is their
>                 stock-in-trade.
>
>                 On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 08:55  AM, Tim 
> Atherton
> wrote:
>
>                 > You mean like a novelist? (aren't they writers 
> too?).
>
>                 Eric Welch
>                 Carlsbad, CA
>                 http://www.jphotog.com
>
>                 The Four States of Santa Claus:
>
>                 1: You believe in Santa Claus.
>                 2: You don't believe in Santa Claus.
>                 3: You are Santa Claus.
>                 4: You look like Santa Claus.
>
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