Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/07/25

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Subject: Re: [Leica] PAW wk 30/sl/the story about this picture
From: "Jack McLain" <jmclainaz@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:58:49 -0700
References: <BB46D2F3.1C76%steve@streetphoto.net>

> I am very surprised at how many comments this picture generated. So for a
> little bit of background:

you should'net be; it's a good shot
>
> As an expatriate New Yorker living south of the Mason-Dixon line I have
> cravings for hot-corned beef on rye with lots of yellow mustard, deli
> pickles, the smell and feel of the hundreds of mom & pop Delis in New York
> City.

Oh... how I know that exact feeling.  NYC was where I spent my formative
years and I miss the place dearly.

I recently spent 5 years in North Carolina.  There are NO Delis there,
despite several wannabe establishments that somewhat capture the ambience
(but fake, like a movie set, not the organic reality that only comes from
growing in the proper substrate).

OTOH... They have barbeque (Eastern Carolina vinegar based) which I grew to
appreciate in a major way.

I will go farther than you; I dont believe rear diners exist anywhere
outside of the northeast, and I dont believe one can get real pizza outside
of a 40 mile radius of Nutley, NJ (with a second smaller nucleus centered in
Chicago). Pineapple Pizza... good god...

Thanks for more of your "deli" shots.
cheers
Jack McLain
Tucson, AZ
http://jackmclain-photography.dotcommunity.net

The classic NYC Deli is a rarity outside of NY. Los Angeles only has
> two, Ziggys and the Broadway Deli and thank God where I live in Annapolis
> there is Chick & Ruth's Delly. Started in 1945 when Chick returned from
that
> conflict in Europe. Both Chick & Ruth are dead now but the Deli is now run
> by their son, Teddy. Teddy told me a few years ago that 'Delly' was simply
a
> spelling mistake by his father and they never saw the need to change it. A
> visit to Chick & Ruth's and you will find a photographer's paradise, not
> only for the ambiance and all the characters you find there, but for the
> hundreds of photographs hanging on the walls. There are 50 years of
pictures
> of politicians, movie stars, sports figures and just plain folks.
>
> This is an overview of the place and you can see how cramped it is:
>
> http://www.streetphoto.net/images/im39.jpg
>
> and here is a customer looking at some of the pictures:
>
> http://www.streetphoto.net/images/im40.jpg
>
> Anyway, I have been going to Chick & Ruth's for years and sometimes take
> pictures while there and Teddy does not mind, someday I will give him a
> handful of 8x10s.
>
> So, about this picture. For a long time there is a shot that I have been
> trying to get, this one comes close. What is missing is some people
outside
> the window looking at the menu which is in the window. Someday I will get
> it.
>
> Well, I was sitting at my table having a grilled cheese sandwich and a
> strawberry milk shake, when this couple walks in. The guy immediately is
> eyeing my strawberry milk shake and as he sits down he says, "man that's
> what I want." Referring to the strawberry milk shake. Finally the waitress
> shows up:
>
> http://www.streetphoto.net/photo_of_the_week/wk32a.jpg
>
> You can see Teddy behind her with the cap.
>
> The waitress tells the guy that they are all out of strawberry milk
shakes,
> he whines a little bit and looks at me like I had just stolen his
> girlfriend. Then he settles for a creamsickle milk shake (mmm I have to
try
> one of those).
>
> So the two of them get settled in at the table, I had a feeling that maybe
> this was a first date as both of them seemed a little unfamiliar with each
> other. Since I had two Leicas sitting on my table, I could not think of
any
> reason to not use them. Fired off a few shots, they did not even notice,
> paid my bill and left.
>
> sl
>
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