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Subject: Re: [Leica] WAS: Focusing a 75 1.4 -- NOW ERIC's comment
From: "korenman" <leica_korenman@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:32:58 -0400
References: <20030722000914.1466.qmail@web80410.mail.yahoo.com> <001401c34fed$f77fd7e0$9cad5018@gv.shawcable.net>

Eric here - that was supposed to be a direct email to Bob. My fault.
No slander to the M7 intended. The M7 and R7 are both great tools.

I bought the Mamiya 6 because I am doing large print portraiture now and I
need to print in the 20" x 20" range.

Eric

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@shaw.ca>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] WAS: Focusing a 75 1.4 -- NOW ERIC's comment


> Hi Bob,
> OK and sorry I screwed-up reading who did what to whom and whom meant what
> they meant to the leica. ;-)
> ted
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Adler" <rgacpa@pacbell.net>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 5:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] WAS: Focusing a 75 1.4 -- NOW ERIC's comment
>
>
> > Actually, Ted, Eric was responding to my simple
> > question of why he decided to use an R8 as opposed to
> > an M for photographing his new family member. I don't
> > think he was griping about the M. I think he's
> > actually saying what you're saying, use the right tool
> > for the right job. In his world, the SLR, according to
> > him, allows him greater close focus control than the
> > M. That's all.
> > But there I go again, getting in between the dog and
> > the tree :-) Just thought I should interject as it was
> > my post that prompted Eric's remark.
> > Going home now to me wife, kids, dogs and scotch; sure
> > beats working!
> > Take care,
> > Bob
> > --- Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > > Eric said:
> > > > Pre-leica, I had a Nikon FE2 and macro (nikon's
> > > "micro") 55mm lens.
> > > > It was the finest combo I ever owned, and I
> > > regretted it after selling
> > > > them off.
> > > > Although I love my M7, I could never reproduce the
> > > same portrait close
> > > > up.  IE, rangefinders just can't cut it when
> > > photographing under 3 ft.
> > > > subject distance.
> > > > I have found that an SLR and a rangefinder are a
> > > lovely duo.
> > > > But of course, ever restless, I am playing with
> > > medium format now..<<<<
> > >
> > > Eric me old son,
> > > Aren't you comparing apples and oranges with the
> > > equipment comparison?
> > >
> > > You and I know the M7 and other M's do not focus as
> > > close as an SLR, Nikon
> > > or Leica, certainly "comparing a macro lens with a
> > > non-macro M lens."
> > >
> > > And although I can understand the differences of
> > > look and distance of focus
> > > relationship, I can't imagine you'd attempt to use
> > > the equipment in similar
> > > fashion when one wont do what the other will?
> > > Certainly in focusing
> > > distance, then complain about buying the Leica gear.
> > > And why you don't sell
> > > the Leica stuff and go back to an SLR Nikon or
> > > otherwise.
> > >
> > > I use whatever I have in my hands at the time to do
> > > the right job for the
> > > assignment and I rarely have a problem with an M
> > > when used for the correct
> > > reason, portraits or other wise.
> > >
> > > It's understanding the limitations of each lens and
> > > camera body and where
> > > they work most effectively that makes life very easy
> > > for any photographer.
> > > And if I found I was not capturing what I wanted due
> > > to the equipment and my
> > > lack of ability in managing the gear I'd get rid of
> > > it and move onto
> > > something else.
> > >
> > > However, I notice you're "playing with new toys:"
> > > >>> But of course, ever restless, I am playing with
> > > medium format now..<<<<
> > >
> > > So this post may be meaningless. Pity! ;-)
> > > ted
>
>
>
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In reply to: Message from Bob Adler <rgacpa@pacbell.net> (Re: [Leica] WAS: Focusing a 75 1.4 -- NOW ERIC's comment)
Message from Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca> (Re: [Leica] WAS: Focusing a 75 1.4 -- NOW ERIC's comment)