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Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshots vs 'art'
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:23:22 -0400

It's a nice shot...but as to figuring out women - go figure!;-)

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Daniel
Ridings
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:40 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshots vs 'art'


I agree. But be careful with what you do manage to see. These beer
drinkers 
from last week ...

http://www.dlridings.com/paw2003/23alt2.html

One used to be my wife, the other was a friend :)

Don't look if you already did earlier. It's the same shot.

Actually, they really loved it. It's fun trying to figure out women.

Daniel

At 09:40 11.06.2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Ed - You slightly missed my point, which had more to do with the way I 
>made it than it does with your understanding of it...:-)
>
>For some quite bizarre reason - and I say quite bizarre because, 
>theoretically, the people on this list take their photography seriously
>- there is a general belief that photos taken of family members and 
>gatherings, of the efluvia of everyday life, must necessarily be "snap 
>shots." My point is that one can chose to make what one knows best ones

>best subject - take your 'best' photos of the kids, the spouse, the 
>parents. They, of all subject, should ignore you and your camera. (I 
>realize there is one real impediment in the way of doing this - and 
>that is the fact that it can be quite difficult to really SEE the 
>subjects that always surround you.)
>
>B. D.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Edward 
>Caliguri
>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 7:56 PM
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: [Leica] Snapshots vs 'art'
>
>
>I think, B.D., that (at least for me!) it's almost an apology because 
>you don't want the viewer to see these as 'your best work'. 'Snaps' of 
>the kids and family are just unthinking grab shots, or more often posed

>(here is a photo of the kids in front of the lion pen at the National
>Zoo) and represent something of a record, nothing more. Only the 
>photographer, those in it and relatives want to see it
>     However, I think you have a point - SOMETIMES, if you are lucky, 
>the Zen thing we all spoke of before - and a gorgeous photograph just 
>'happens' while you are 'snapping' - then you can show it to everyone, 
>because then you can call it 'art' ;-)
>     Ed
>
> > <I MUST be missing something here...but why do photos of "the kids,"

> > and the other most important people and things in ones life, have to

> > be relegated to "snap shots?"
> >
> > Just wondering. :-)
> >
> > B. D.
>
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