Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/06/09

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Any thoughts on this flare problem?
From: Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca>
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 20:09:24 -0700
References: <9B8B107C-9ADA-11D7-9E47-000A9578C446@ncable.net.au>

Alastair Firkin asked:
>Any thoughts on this flare problem?
> Please visit:
> http://stairfirkin.com/Mayimages/antelopeflare1.jpg
> http://stairfirkin.com/Mayimages/antelopeflare2.jpg
> to see my problem. Not that I can easily return to Antelope Canyon ;-)
> G'day all,
> My first images are "failures". Despite keeping the
> lens out of the direct line of the light as it pours through the
> ceiling the 15 mm Super elmar has created a chicken pox effect with
> small dots of flare -- small I presume as I was using f16 or f22.<<<

I don't think it's the small apeture, maybe, it's very tiny dust specks out
of focus in the air close to the camera lens being high-lighted some how by
the sunlight. Something like an out of focus light in an evening shot.

Seems like you may have a lot of Photo Shop spotting to do. ;-)

> Am I right in thinking this is due to the highlights bouncing around in
the lens barrel?<<<

Not likely.

>Is there any way to avoid this flare?<<<<

I don't think so due to the design of the lens, it's super wide angle
picks-up high-light flares very easily depending on direction light is
coming from. When shooting with side light you can easily get an internal
flare and the only way to get rid of it is, either change your angle or
composition by adding something that blocks the sun or light,  but doesn't
spoil the picture.  This means usually getting something in silhouette to
block the light creating the flare.

> Is the older super elmar more prone to flare than the newer version -- not
that I
> could afford the newer one, or the trip back to Arizona !!!!<<<<

I don't think so, although I suppose the new one might have a lessening of
flare effect,
if there were design changes to the lens. But a super wide angle just gets
them due to the super-wide angle.

Although there's probably going to be some techie who'll have the absolute
correct answer even though they never used the lens. :-)
ted



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