Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/04/04

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Subject: Re: [Leica] fired for Photoshopping
From: Tina Manley <images@InfoAve.Net>
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 11:33:42 -0500


It was not re-enacted for the photographer.  The small flag was replaced 
with a larger one and Joe Rosenthal took the photo as the flag was being 


At 08:17 AM 4/4/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>I am disturbed by the readiness to condemn the photographer without taking
>into account the broader context in which the result of his image
>manipulation was propagated. I agree with Martin that there is a system
>problem. Assigning one hundred percent of the blame to the combat
>photographer and zero to the picture editor back home strikes me as too
>How would we view today Joe Rosenthal's Pulitzer Prize winning, iconic
>photograph of raising the flag on Mt. Suribachi? It was reenacted (see
>and other URLs on the same topic).
>When I went to the Signal Corps Photo School in 1953, Rosenthal's picture
>was discussed as the rare acceptable exception to the basic rule of "truth
>in photography". As others have pointed out, things were a lot simpler in
>"the old days": the still photographer handed in his exposed sheet film or
>pack with a description of "who, what, where, when" to the darkroom people;
>I handed in my exposed 50 foot or 1000 foot rolls of 35mm film that included
>a slate with the same basic information (otherwise it was useless). In
>either case some editor took over after the film was processed; that was the
>system, and it certainly did not operate in near real time as today's
>combination of telecommunication and digital imaging does.
>How would we design a system to acquire, edit, and publish combat images
>from a location many time zones away, given limited bandwidth to transmit
>them, and deadlines to publish?
>Oliver Bryk
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Tina Manley, ASMP

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