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Subject: RE: [Leica] fired for photoshopping
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 10:06:09 -0500

What we're talking about here Henry, is not whether photos are used for
propaganda purposes, not whether photos "lie" or tell some kind of
objective "truth." What we are discussing is whether we should be able
to trust that what we see in the newspaper or magazine is all, or a
portion of the photo which the photographer actually took - a single
exposure of film or pixels.

B. D.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Henry Ting
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 4:15 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] fired for photoshopping


Jounalism pictorials were used ever since photography
was invented for publicity and "propaganda". I'm not
saying a picture does not lie or whether it portrays
reality, but stating a pictorial content should
represent the absolute truth is kind of stretching it.
Just like our TV newscast. I wouldn't trust heresay a
100% either.
- --- GeeBee <graham@geebeespaw.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> I accept "spin" as a reality in just about
> everything I read in the
> newspapers, isn't that "ProseShopping". If the LA
> Times guy had
> "PhotoShopped" a herd of elephants in and the
> picture was run under a
> headline "Hannibal Hussein moves the 43rd Pachyderm
> Regiment to the front"
> that would obviously be unacceptable but it seems a
> little unfair to me to
> expect such high standards from press photographers. Particularly when

> large sections of those that disseminate the news seem, to
> me at any rate,  exempt
> from such high ideals for a lot of the time.
> 
> --Graham
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Slobodan Dimitrov" <sld@earthlink.net>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: 03 April 2003 07:50
> Subject: Re: [Leica] fired for photoshopping
> 
> 
> > Sometime ago, a publisher of the LA Times, stated
> that it's the paper's
> > duty to be engaged in social engineering. I got
> the impression that
> > anything was permissible under that declaration.
> > Slobodan Dimitrov
> >
> > Frank Filippone wrote:
> > >
> > > And what do you read in a newspaper or see in
> paid advertising that is
> 100%
> > > truth?  Why should photography be the only 100%
> truth?
> > >
> > > Apropos the comment about a Pulitzer for
> unmanipulated images... are you
> > > sure there has never been any darkroom "magic"
> done to improve a
> Pulitzer
> > > winning picture?  It is only the amount of that
> manipulation that seem
> to
> > > bother people.
> > >
> > > It is all perception.
> > >
> > > Frank Filippone
> > > red735i@earthlink.net
> > >
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