Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/04/03

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Subject: RE: [Leica] fired for photoshopping
From: "bdcolen" <>
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 10:04:00 -0500

What is with you folks? Unacceptable to say 'submit only those photos
that you exposed, and none of those that you composed?'

We're not talking art photography here, folks, we're talking news
photography - photojournalism. The photographer has all sorts of
editorial choices available to him, in terms of how he shoots the photo,
where he stands when he shoots it, how he composes it. And then he has
the option of transmitting, or not transmitting a given photo to his
paper. He should NOT have the option of going through his raw files to
find material to meld into a photo he never took.

B. D.

- -----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of GeeBee
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] fired for photoshopping

I accept "spin" as a reality in just about everything I read in the
newspapers, isn't that "ProseShopping". If the LA Times guy had
"PhotoShopped" a herd of elephants in and the picture was run under a
headline "Hannibal Hussein moves the 43rd Pachyderm Regiment to the
front" that would obviously be unacceptable but it seems a little unfair
to me to expect such high standards from press photographers.
Particularly when large sections of those that disseminate the news
seem, to me at any rate,  exempt from such high ideals for a lot of the

- --Graham

From: "Slobodan Dimitrov" <>
To: <>
Sent: 03 April 2003 07:50
Subject: Re: [Leica] fired for photoshopping

> Sometime ago, a publisher of the LA Times, stated that it's the 
> paper's duty to be engaged in social engineering. I got the impression

> that anything was permissible under that declaration. Slobodan 
> Dimitrov
> Frank Filippone wrote:
> >
> > And what do you read in a newspaper or see in paid advertising that 
> > is
> > truth?  Why should photography be the only 100% truth?
> >
> > Apropos the comment about a Pulitzer for unmanipulated images... are

> > you sure there has never been any darkroom "magic" done to improve a
> > winning picture?  It is only the amount of that manipulation that 
> > seem
> > bother people.
> >
> > It is all perception.
> >
> > Frank Filippone
> >
> >
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