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Subject: Re: [Leica] disaster with the first roll?
From: Rei Shinozuka <shino@panix.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:55:55 -0500
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030313013354.026bed80@192.168.100.11> <5.2.0.9.2.20030313122358.00bb1870@mail.hf.uio.no>

i start shooting on frame zero and typically get 39 frames with the M6.
proof on 8.5 x 11 paper, 6 strips of 6, plus a half-strip of 3.

i'd guess that many of the early frames will be salvagable.

- -rei

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 12:28:15PM +0100, Daniel Ridings wrote:
> Leica's seem to be pretty frugal when it comes to burning off a few frames 
> in the beginning when you first load a roll. 1 - 2 and you're ready to go.
> 
> Other cameras are a little more "wasteful" ... 1 - 2 - 3 and ready for an 
> F3.
> 
> I suspect that the film producers cater for the "worst case", giving those 
> with a camera like a Leica a few extra frames to boot.
> 
> As for anything being salvageable ... just have it developed. You'll never 
> know otherwise. A few will be wasted and none have benefited from the 
> experience, but it depends on how you feel about your shots. If you can 
> afford an M7 you can afford to blow a few bucks on processing :) :)
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> At 01:43 13.03.2003 -0800, you wrote:
> >One complaint about the Ms is of course the bottom loading. Yes I 
> >understand that some people like it a lot too. When I rented the M6, I 
> >thought the bottom loading is pretty neat and didn't have any trouble.
> >
> >Tonight I was finishing the first roll (Provia 100F 36 exp) on the brand 
> >new M7, shot 37 went past. Cool. 38, OK. 39. Hm... 40? The rewind crank 
> >rotated when I winded the lever and there was some tension. 41? Uh Oh, 
> >something must be wrong. In my panic, I didn't think about trying to 
> >rewind. Opened the bottom plate and SH*T - there were film out on the 
> >spool! Replaced bottom plate. Rewind - it certainly did not feel like I 
> >have to wind the whole length's worth...
> >
> >So - is it possible that my M7 has a problem and that the take up spool 
> >does not pull in a full frame's worth? (e.g. for argument sake, each 
> >winding on the lever only pulls in half of the frame or whatever) Or is it 
> >possible that the M7 just giving me lots of extra frames? If latter, what 
> >is the chance that there are some salvageable pictures on the roll? Should 
> >I go ahead and develop it?
> >
> >I then load in one of the those 12+3 roll as a test, and I got 18 "shots" 
> >on the counter.
> >
> >Arrgghhh....
> >
> >// richard <http://www.imagecraft.com> 
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Rei Shinozuka shino@panix.com
Ridgewood, New Jersey

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