Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/03/10

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica focusing...HELP!
From: "Red Dawn" <reddawn@singnet.com.sg>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:25:33 +0800
References: <BA929655.24682%mlquinn.mail@earthlink.net>

Hi Mike,

u're going to get me in trouble answering that qn on the LUG....:p

What I meant was by taking the burden of accurate focus off the
photographer, one is more relaxed and free to think about the right
composition. Just as Chris mentioned that he is more free to think about
focusing the camera when the job of exposure is taken care of by the AE
feature of his M7, with a camera with fast AF, focusing becomes more of a
none issue and the photographer can think more about the shot in terms of
arragement of elements in the frame, balancing content and asthetics,
instead of worrying whether that rangefinder image is really perfectly lined
up.......

Of course this is a very personal issue. Some positively hate anything
that's electronic or battery dependent :) I can wield an M with ease and
work just as fast as my AF SLRs for focal lengths 50mm and below, and still
compose things the way i want to. I'm not a fan of zone focusing, preferring
to focus exactly whenever possible.

There is a second part to my answer, though, and that is the use of fast
telephoto lenses (75 f1.4, 90 f2 etc) or extremely fast lenses like the
Noctilux. Ever wondered why most Noctilux shots have their subjects
perfectly centred in the frame? Often with DOF so narrow with these lenses,
focus then recompose is a big no-no, especially for moving subjects.

Modern AF systems shine in this aspect, with the ability to selectively
place AF points over desired spots (for me, almost always the eyes of any
human subject). With that capability, you can choose an off center AF point,
frame up the subject with the composition you want, and shoot with
confidence that the focus is dead on where you want it to be. It's much
faster too. And if i wish, i can configure the camera to behave exactly like
my M - one button press to focus, the main shutter release for well, shutter
release, which means the camera will not attempt to AF everytime i half
press the shutter release - that way i can hold focus. the best thing is i
can even do this with off center moving subjects - and i can still shoot
wide open with confidence.

I've always thought that lenses like the M 50 f1.0, 75 f1.4, 90 f2 etc are
wasted on rangefinders, and are probably more suitable for use on SLRs,
where it's much easier to wield them, even with manual SLRs. The whole
premise of the M rangefinders, is to me, shooting fast and candid fleeting
moments, often in horrible light. It's harder to achieve that with say, a
Leica M and 75 f1.4 @f1.4, than a Canon 1v with a 85 f1.2 lens, and still
get a satisfactory composition that does not have the main subject perfectly
centred in the frame....

the 75mm at f1.4 may have phenomenal bokeh, contrast and sharpness - but it
only works if the picture is
1) in focus
2) has a pleasing composition

agree? :)

ok this is now OT and i shall stop my ramblings....

Boon Hwee

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Quinn" <mlquinn.mail@earthlink.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica focusing...HELP!


> How does AF help with off-center subjects?
>
> With the M it's easy: focus on the subject and then move the frame
wherever
> you want. How does AF help with that?

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