Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/03/01

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Is a Good Used M6TTL Worth More Than...?
From: Patrick Jelliffe <pbjbike@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 09:31:48 -0800 (PST)

Buzz,

By my reckoning, that comes to no more than 10 hours
of work for the physician.  Even with overhead, that
seems to be very very fair compensation. Physicians in
the UK make an average of 40K BP per year, about what
the average veterinarian, (according to Ed), in the US
makes, and mid-wives have delivered babies for milenia
for small commpensation. The financial status of US
physicians is, on the whole, very healthy.  Many have
been my clients, and their yearly spending on luxury
items/vacations was equivalent to a year of my salary,
or more.  Yes, they do amazing work, have years of
training, are under incredible stress, but by and
large, are rewarded handsomely for their efforts. 

Your intended cost comparison of bringing life into
the world vs. the costs  of a (limited) mass-produced
mechanical item is a non-starter.  Delivering babies,
or a heart operation brings an inherrent moral value
to the equation that cannot be compared to the cost of
an inanimate object.  If we were all truly rewarded
for the  emperical "goodness" of our work, then nuns
working in the slums of Calcutta, or UN landmine
sweepers, for example, would deserve compensation at
least equal to that of the average GP physician. 

Regards,

Patrick

  


- --- Buzz Hausner <buzz.hausner@verizon.net> wrote:
> I certainly don't ask anyone to feel sorry for
> physicians.  However, you
> may want to consider the financial status of the
> profession.  For
> instance, an obstetrician will provide over thirty
> weeks of care for a
> pregnant woman.  This care will include ten to
> twelve office visits of
> between fifteen minutes and a half hour, at the end
> of which the doctor
> will deliver the baby, perhaps after being roused at
> three am to spend
> many hours with the patient before the delivery. 
> The patient may
> require surgical care to repair any torn tissue or
> even a hemorrhage.
> After the birth, the patient will be seen for three
> more office visits.
> For all of this care, the physician will be
> reimbursed by an insurance
> company an amount substantially less than the cost
> of an M7 body and
> only slightly more than the cost of a good used M6
> TTL.  Not that the
> doctor gets to keep all of that money...after paying
> for malpractice
> insurance, rent, staff, supplies, et cetera.
> 
> Again, I am not suggesting pity for the doctor, but
> one might get a
> different perspective by weighing the cost of our
> cameras against the
> value of our medical care.
> 
> 	Buzz Hausner
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On
> Behalf Of animal
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:24 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] OR photography and what can
> really happen
> 
> I,d suspect that there are other  reasons for speed.
> There might be a limit how long surgery can last
> anyway.
> Everybody makes mistakes constantly.
> Even though results of mistakes vary.
> You can not blame people,s poor design.
> You just have to device procedures to minimize
> mistakes.
> It,s a very interesting complex subject human
> factors.
> The highest number of accidents occur in the home
> when people make tea.
> When distracted it,s very easy to boil two times the
> amount of water and
> at
> the second to an allready full teapot which can
> result in horrible burns
> for
> kids below the counter.
> While in the past research focused on aviation and
> the nuclear
> industries
> research has shown the complexity and is now
> focusing on the more common
> household accidents.
> simon
> 
> 
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