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Subject: Re: [Leica] Why fashion photography sucks
From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 13:47:31 -0800
References: <195.135ced17.2b4a01ed@aol.com>

Kim

Do all those photographers listed spell their names with lower case letters?

I thought that ee cummings was the only person worthy of that.

Jerry

Teresa299@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 1/5/03 12:17:56 PM, bdcolen@earthlink.net writes:
>
> << Amen! To say nothing of the fact that much of the most successful and
> popular fashion photography serves up the degrading, the 'degenerate,'
> the pathetic and the 'perverse' as that to which we should all aspire -
> remember 'heroin chic?' Sexually provocative poses by underage models,
> or those who look under age? Certainly there's allot of creative fashion
> photography - and I assume that Martin is referring to studio type
> fashion work, Ted, not shooting runway models. But the question is how
> that creativity is being used. It's a lonnnnnng way from early Avedon to
> the Calvin Klein underwear ads.
>
> B. D. >>
>
>
>
> I'm running through my mind who I think are some of the most successful
> current fashion photographers and the images they serve up.  The names that
> come to mind are steven meisel, pablo roversi, demarchalier, michel comte,
> david lachapelle, bruce weber, mario testino, ellen von unwerth, bettina
> rheims, walter chin, sarah moon, avedon, ritts (ok so he's not current
> anymore)....I'm sure there are many others...but of those listed I'm having a
> hard time thinking of their work as serving up "the degrading, the
> 'degenerate,' the pathetic and the 'perverse' ."
>
> Creativity is often stunted and altered in the face of commercial
> (particularly advertising) issues....this isn't just the case in fashion
> photography.  It seems to be the nature of the beast where as an artist
> attempting to survive off your art, you must be reasonably attuned to the
> hand (or in this case client) who is feeding you.   But it seems to me that
> condemning all (or even "much of")fashion photography because of heroin chic
> or underware ads is kinda like condeming all of hip hop because of gangsta
> rap.
>
> Kim
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