Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/12/16
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Finally...;-) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Johnny Deadman Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 6:38 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: [Leica] Oh for heaven's sake WAS 1Ds digital results On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 05:03 PM, bdcolen wrote: > However, Doug, sarcasm aside, personal experience or no, given that > the ribbing is visible in the white hockey socks in both the film scan > and the digital shot, the questions about those to shots that really > do have to be answered relate to brightness and angle of illumination, > etc., and > not to "personal experience." That whole ribbing thing is f***ing ridiculous. Even if the damned images weren't of two different fast-moving hockey players (whose knees were presumably travelling at different speeds) shot on long lenses under different lighting conditions (one considerably more angular than the other), trying to judge a 11 MP camera, or indeed film, from an jpeg image like that is beyond nuts. My dinky Nikon 5000 renders more detail than that ribbing with ease. It "turns to mush" because you are looking at it at 72 dpi on a compressed image, duh. The only way to make comparisons is to go to 'actual pixels' level in uncompressed and unsharpened versions of both the digital and the scanned image. Otherwise you are just blowing smoke up each other's asses -- behaviour which I might point out is not exactly unknown on this list, and however pleasurable it may be for consenting participants does not add to the sum of human knowledge. My own guess is that an 11 MP camera will blow any 200 ISO 35mm film out of the water, and will look better than 100 ISO 35mm film at anything less than 10x enlargement. I think those are conservative estimates too. - -- John Brownlow - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html