Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/12/11

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Subject: Re: [Leica] (Leica) Process Not Product
From: Bill Satterfield <cwsat@istate.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 10:41:04 -0600
References: <Springmail.0994.1039621780.0.42381200@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>

WOW!

Frank Farmer wrote:

>Here, here!  Well said.
>
>Frank
>
>On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 00:30:38 -0800 PhotoWrite <PhotoWrite@intercomm.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Mr. Dave R:
>>
>>I think you have something.
>>
>>I will preface my comments to the group by
>>stating that I am very new to the
>>Leica M system and the LUG (less than three
>>months). In addition, I also
>>know that it is the end result that matters and
>>that we all want great
>>photos. Still, maybe there is room for another
>>person out on Dave Rıs
>>limb...
>>
>>Dave, your remarks about the ease of the
>>digital process and the possible
>>cheapness or short-term nature (my words) of
>>digital images, whether true or
>>not, are very interesting. You commented that
>>the end appearance is not the
>>ONLY important factor when we judge an image,
>>as close copies can be
>>technically as good in most cases but are OEnot
>>originalsı. I think one of
>>the reasons this is important is that our
>>subjective opinions about how and
>>why things are made (including photos) affect
>>how we think and feel about
>>them both short and long-term. Iım even willing
>>to take the digital vs. film
>>OEcaptureı out of the argument for what Iım
>>going to say below.
>>
>>Your comments bring to mind a theory and lesson
>>I refer to often from a book
>>titled "Zen in the Martial Arts". One of the
>>lessons is "process, not
>>product", (Iım paraphrasing as I canıt find my
>>book and the stories were
>>read long ago)  
>>
>>'process not product' If one is solely focused
>>on the desired result you may
>>not attain what you desire (partially because
>>of your frustration and
>>eagerness). Whereas if you focus on the
>>performing the correct process, with
>>the proper intent, the product will come in due
>>time.
>>
>>So if OEthe Leica wayı works for someone, it may
>>be because the manner in
>>which these people practice and perform the
>>process of making photographs
>>with a Leica is an important part of their art
>>(or learning process).
>>
>>Yes, the cameras are merely tools, but tools
>>are not without impact. The
>>manner in which a tool is mastered or works
>>well for one operator but not
>>another is directly related to the tools
>>output.
>>
>>PhotoWrite
>>James Langan 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Martin, 
>>
>>>>Like most areas of technology, what drives
>>>>
>>development is economy.
>>
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