Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/11/14

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Last weekends Wedding - 100% Leica
From: "Stuart Phillips" <stuart.phillips@rcn.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:35:02 -0500
References: <NCEJJENJLHLOMAKOBEJGKEOLCDAA.randy@jamzcheer.com>

I think with "wedding" in the subject, those who aren't interested can stay
away.


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Jensen" <randy@jamzcheer.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 11:08 AM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Last weekends Wedding - 100% Leica


> I would really like to have a discussion with other wedding photographers
on
> this list, but I don't want to bog down the LUG with wedding-related
stuff.
>
> I shoot with a Bronica ETRS, usually about 250 images at a typical
wedding,
> and about 100 black and white shots with a Leica R4 and R4s (plus various
> Infrared, etc).  Just curious what others are doing.
>
> Again, I don't want the LUG to become any kind of wedding discussion,
unless
> others think it's applicable.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Rob Heyman
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:38 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Last weekends Wedding - 100% Leica
>
>
>
> Hi Ted,
>
> "the costs are so prohibitive and the public so
> retiscent to pay high fees for this sort of coverage."
>
> My understanding of Gerry's statement was that it costs more to photograph
a
> wedding my way than his way.  It seems to me that ANYONE can offer my sort
> of
> coverage. I use 6-8 rolls of 35mm and sell from proofs. That part is
pretty
> much
> the same cost all over the world.  Gerry can then offer the album and
prints
> for
> any price he wants. I would like to know how Gerry photographs a wedding
and
> how
> the costs would become prohibitive for him.
>
> As far as pricing the album, you are absolutely correct. We should price
our
> work to whatever the market can stand. The market will set your price.
>
> Rob
>
> Ted Grant wrote:
>
> > Rob Heyman sked:
> >
> > > "As for the market, and here I assume you mean the costs, how does
> > > it cost more for to cover a wedding without any extra lights,
> assistants,
> > 120
> > > cameras AND WITH just a kit of Leica over your shoulder?"<<<
> >
> > Hi Rob,
> > It has nothing to do with the cost factor of reality in any case..
> >
> > It has everything to do with the balls to state your price of $20 K and
> make
> > it sound you are asking $200.! :-) And right there is the secret of
making
> > the big money! State the price, don't blink, snicker or anything but
stand
> > there and calmly wait for the answer, because they will say one of three
> > things...
> >
> > OK that's fine, what is the drill for the wedding day? :-)
> > Seems a bit high but for that money you must be damn good! You get the
> job.
> > :-)
> > Drop dead you must be crazy! :-(
> >
> > It's having the mastery of the marketing technique which damn few
> > photographers have, because we really want to take pictures and rarely
> time
> > to develop the selling technique. Then there are the guys who have all
the
> > marbles in the bag and sell themselves like magic. And in this case they
> > always get their bride!
> >
> > ted.... whose never had the balls to try it! ;-)
> >
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