Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/10/24

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Subject: Re:Subject: [Leica] .58x or .72x
From: Bern DelGado <evilboy1964@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:21:16 -0700 (PDT)

I wear glasses, but in the .72 M6, I can see the 35mm
frames fine. Its the 28mm that gets tuff.
In my M6 .85, the 35frames are hard to get a hold of.

Incidentally, I got that body to retire my M3. No
luck. When I turn it to shoot a vertical in lowlite,
bam, the 50mm frames wink out. And I wish the frames
were twice as thick, more like the M3.
- -B




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                             Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002
10:24:51 -0700 (PDT)
                             From: Peter Klein
<pklein@2alpha.net>
                             Subject: [Leica] .58x or
.72x?
                             Message-ID: 
                            
<Pine.GSO.4.05.10210241022370.12485-100000@mucho.2alpha.com>
                             References: 

                             I'd like a little advice
about viewfinder magnification.

                             I usually wear contact
lenses, sometimes standard bifocal glasses.
                             With contacts, I can see
the entire 35mm frame on a .72x Leica M.  With
                             glasses, I can't.

                             I'm seriously
contemplating the purchase of a new M.  This would be
a
                             *very* long-term
purchase, so I'm thinking ahead.  I am 48 years old.
                             There might come a time
when I can no longer wear contacts. And I
                             sometimes like to give a
my eyes a rest from the contacts on weekends.

                             So I've got the following
choices:

                             1.  Buy .72x.  Live with
the loss of 35mm framelines when wearing
                                 glasses.  If some day
I can't wear contacts any more, sell the .72x
                                 and buy a .58x.

                             2.  Buy .72x. Also buy a
35mm brightline finder, use it when wearing
                                 glasses.

                             3.  Buy .58x. Use my
Leica 1.25x magnifier on it when wearing
                                 contacts, take it off
when wearing glasses.

                             When I've tried a .58x
Leica (or the .6x Hexar) in a store, I've
                             disliked them.  While it
was nice to see the 35mm lines with glasses,
                             the VF image seemed too
small and squinty and less easy to focus.
                             Getting a .58x also means
that I'd lose the use of the 1.25x magnifier
                             to give me a .9x 
viewfinder with a 90mm lens.  And I'd have to have 
                             the
                             magnifier on my camera
much of the time to give me .72.

                             The order in which I most
use my lenses is 50, 35, 90. The order in
                             which I *like* my lenses
is 50, 90, 35.  I tend toward candid
                             available-light "people
pictures."

                             I realize no one can make
this decision for me.  But I don't have a 
                             .58x
                             M to shoot with for a
month to really see how it would go.  So I'd like
                             to hear from anyone else
who has considered .72 vs. .58x.

                             Thanks,
                             - --Peter Klein
                             Seattle, WA


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