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Subject: Re: [Leica] FS: Photo books and prints by Albert Wang, first three copies for free.
From: "Steve LeHuray" <icommag@toad.net>
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 10:48:41 -0400

I agree B.D.

His "craft" is easily the worst I have seen in a long time.

The really pathetic part is labeling himself an "Existentialist" I always
thought critics and reviewers did that.


sl


> Okay, enough is a bleeping nuff! It's time to point out that the bleeping
> Emperor is stark raving naked - and more than a bit mad!
>
> What is the theory here - call yourself a photographer - or, in this case, a
> "street photographer/documentary photographer" and you ARE one? Drop a load
> of crap off at Kinkos for printing and you are a PUBLISHED photographer?
>
> Over the past year or two numerous people on this and other lists have
> looked at Alfie's work and tried to offer him constructive criticism. And he
> has ignored all of it - which would be fine if he exhibited one scintilla of
> talent or originality and was developing a unique style and vision.
>
> But he hasn't, and he isn't...
>
> The idea that someone would hold himself out as a "photographer" whose work
> is worth of collecting - with an autograph for God's sake?! - while offering
> this kind of crap - and I use the word advisedly - to the world is truly
> appalling.
>
> I know that there will be those of you who will say that I am being mean
> spirited, nasty, or any number of other things. What I am being is honest.
>
> What Alfie is doing is demeaning and insulting to all of us who have spent
> years working at our craft - whether as hobbyists or professionals - honing
> our skills to the point where we can honestly say, "I am a photographer."
>
> Please, for the sake of your own integrity as photographers, do not continue
> to humor him and play along with this insulting nonsense.
>
> B. D. Colen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Albert Wang
> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:23 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: [Leica] FS: Photo books and prints by Albert Wang, first three
> copies for free.
>
>
> For sale:
>
> 1) Postcards of an Existentialist Paperback Monograph
>
> Postcards of an Existentialist, despite its title isn't a French
> existentialist treatise but in terms of its outlook of life influenced by
> Samuel Beckett, Jean-Paul Sartre, Eugene Richards, Eric Dolphy, and Ornette
> Coleman. It is a personal two-year (2001-2) diary about one man's coming to
> terms with his own depression and loneliness as he returns from graduate
> school back to the city where he moved away from. It's a dour yet ironic and
> bitterly humorous portrait of Philadelphia (w/ a few shots of New York City)
> and it's a stark contrast to any of the daintily pretty pictures we tend to
> see of the Liberty Bell or Independence Hall. Instead, what we have here is
> a brutally honest photo-journal of a documentary take of the photographer
> being viewed with suspicion and distrust or ignorance. It's a visual
> illustration of the quote from Cool Hand Luke: "What we have here is a
> failure to communicate."
>
> The 107 page book is printed in halftone with plastic covers. The dimension
> of the book is 8.5 inches by 11 inches.
>
> Cost of the book: $30 plus $10 shipping and handling.
>
> 2) Complete set of all 96 prints done by the photographer himself and signed
> on verso. The only size I can print at is 8.5 inches by 11 inches. The
> prints are sleeved in an archival quality Itoya binder. The person has a
> choice of options as follows:
>
> a) Self-printed and autographed (on verso) full set of 96 prints on Epson
> Archival Matte Paper (192 gsm) and sleeved in Itoya binder.
>
> Cost of the set of prints: $150 plus $20 shipping and handling and
> insurance.
>
> b) Self-printed and autographed (on verso) full set of 96 prints on
> Hahnemuhle Photo Matte Paper (170 gsm) and sleeved in Itoya binder.
>
> Cost of the set of prints: $300 plus $20 shipping and handling and
> insurance.
>
> c) Self-printed and autographed (on verso) full set of 96 prints on
> Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 188 (188 gsm) and sleeved in Itoya binder.
>
> Cost of the set of prints: $500 plus $20 shipping and handling and
> insurance.
>
> d) Self-printed and autographed (on verso) full set of 96 prints on
> Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 308 (308 gsm) and sleeved in Itoya binder.
>
> Cost of the set of prints: $600 plus $20 shipping and handling and
> insurance.
>
> I am willing to consider other papers (except glossy) such as Legion Photo
> Matte on special request but at present, this is what is being offered.
>
> 3) A choice of 96 prints done by the photographer himself and signed on
> verso. The only size I can print at is 8.5 inches by 11 inches. The prints
> are unmatted and will be shipped with a matte board of 11 inches by 14
> inches. The person has a choice of options as follows:
>
> a) Self-printed and autographed (on verso) unmatted print on Epson Archival
> Matte Paper (192 gsm).
>
> Cost of the prints: $10 plus $5 shipping and handling and insurance.
>
> b) Self-printed and autographed (on verso) unmatted print on Hahnemuhle
> Photo Matte Paper (170 gsm).
>
> Cost of the set of prints: $20 plus $5 shipping and handling and insurance.
>
> c) Self-printed and autographed (on verso) unmatted print on Hahnemuhle
> Photo Rag 188 (188 gsm).
>
> Cost of the set of prints: $40 plus $5 shipping and handling and insurance.
>
> d) Self-printed and autographed (on verso) unmatted prints on Hahnemuhle
> Photo Rag 308 (308 gsm).
>
> Cost of the set of prints: $50 plus $5 shipping and handling and insurance.
>
> I am willing to consider other papers (except glossy) such as Legion Photo
> Matte on special request but at present, this is what is being offered.
>
> When ordering prints, use a description of the picture which is shown in
> either the book or the CD-ROM.
>
> 4) The complete book on CD-ROM in Abode Acrobat pdf format.
>
> Plain non-archival quality CD-ROM without a sleeve which a person can use
> the catalog to order prints.
>
> Cost of the non-archival catalog: $.50 plus $4 shipping and handling.
>
> For more information or to order please contact Albert Wang at
> leica_phile@hotmail.com accordingly. Thanks again for your consideration.
>
> Albert "Alfie" Wang
> Freelance Street/Documentary Photographer
> 1122 Brill St.
> Philadelphia PA 19124
> leica_phile@hotmail.com
> (215) 668-1809
>
>

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