Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/05/25

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Subject: [Leica] Re: LTM slow loading
From: Ken Wilcox <>
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 10:06:02 -0400
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At the risk of intense heat in reply, trim the leader for you M3and 
M2. It will slip right in as it does on the screw mounts.

Ken Wilcox

At 11:27 PM -0400 5/24/02, Howard Sanner wrote:
>Henning Wulff wrote:
>An M3 loads like a screwmount camera, except you don't have to trim
>the leader, and you get to look at what's happening. M4 through M7
>(with minor variations with the M5) is basically drop the film in
>with the leader across to the tulip, make sure the film is pushed up
>to the sprockets, close it up and take pictures.
>To which I reply:
>	How do you get the film to land across the sprockets without 
>endless fiddling? On the M3, the film always gets caught on the
>rails or something else in the film path, maybe the rectangle in 
>which the shutter curtains sit, maybe the frame around the back
>door. On the M6, either the leader gets cocked towards the top of 
>the camera (and WAY out of the sprockets), or, like the M3,
>the tongue gets hung up on something and doesn't go in quite far 
>enough. Either way, the film doesn't engage the sprockets.
>Either I fool (<== possibly the correct word <g>) with it before I 
>put the baseplate on, or I remove the baseplate and do so
>after I realize that once again the camera isn't loaded right.
>	By contrast, I've NEVER, ever, in many rolls of film, had 
>this problem with a screwmount camera. For me, it truly is a matter
>of drop in film loading with them.
>	I'd really like to know how to load the M's correctly. 
>Obviously I'm doing something wrong.
>	Thanks.
>					Howard Sanner
>  The fastest and most
>foolproof (term used advisedly :-)) system I've ever run across. I've
>used lots of screwmount Leicas, Nikons, Canons, Konicas,
>Pentax,whatever, as well as Widelux and Horizon (now _there's_ a hard
>to load camera!) and most every kind of MF setup. The M4-7 sytem is
>the best. Thousands and thousands of rolls. About the only screw-up
>I've managed is not closing the back fully before clamping on the
>base :-(.
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