Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/05/11

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Subject: RE: [Leica] LTM vs. M
From: "B. D. Colen" <>
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 11:53:34 -0400

Andrew - There is no question that LTM's are wonderfully transportable,
solid, and quiet. And, as you point out, the Cosina lenses are excellent
modern lenses - in many cases as good or even slightly better than all but
the latest aspheric M mount Leica lenses.

But the real question is what you want to do with your Leica or Leicas, and
whether photographic technology obsolete since the late 1950s suits your
needs and method of shooting. How much of a pain would or do you find always
having to deal with the separate rangefinder and viewfinder? Are you
bothered by the slow film rewind process, and slow film advance process?
Does the loading method slow you down or bother you? Are you bothered by the
expense of having to have separate viewfinders for all but your 50 mm lens?
Are you slowed down by changing thread mount lenses? If the answer to any of
these questions is "yes," and "yes" to a degree that interferes with
achieving your personal photographic vision, then you would probably benefit
from going with an M camera.

If the answer to all those questions is "no," then stick with the LTMs. They
are repairable. There are repair people with part supplies. And they are
wonderful vintage cameras. And they are relatively inexpensive.

B. D.

- -----Original Message-----
[]On Behalf Of Andrew
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 1:19 PM
Subject: [Leica] LTM vs. M

Hello everyone, I'm curious the ratio of M user's on the LUG to regular
LTM user's. When I purchased my first leica, an M2, last year I had two
cameras in mind. It was a desicion between a IIIf with lens and the M2
with 50mm lens.  At the last minute I decided to go with the M for
various reasons. First the availablility of repair parts for M's seemed
better. Second the ease of use of the combined VF/RF on the M's. Finally
the ability to use modern lenses.

Today LTM user's can also use modern lenses (the Cosina Voigtlander
series), so I am again interesed in an older screw mount leica! What are
the favorites of the LUG members? I love the size of the LTM cameras
with a collapsible lens: pocketable! I'm leaning toward a IIIc or IIIf.
Will I need to have a second body as a 'parts' camera if repairs are
ever needed? Any advice from your combined expertise would be greatly
appreciated! With my M2 on it's way for a repair, for who knows how
long, I'm experiencing my first 'Leica withdrawl'!

Thanks for the time! Andrew
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