Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/05/01

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Shintaro
From: Dennis Painter <dennis@hale-pohaku.com>
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 22:07:47 -0700
References: <20020501155951.66094.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com>

Methinks ye protests too much

Javier Perez wrote:

> Now that's a pretty stupid thing to say.
> Am I supposed to trust him because people who feel the
> need to have their cameras repainted like him.
> Do I know this guy! I don't assume anything about him
> except for what I've observed on his site and from
> user's commenmts. Considering the reaction of some of
> those users to my doubts I must discounts their
> comments about the quality of the paint job.
>
> I am questioning the quality of a product seen on the
> web. I don't give a dam who makes it nor do I care if
> you happen to like him. If you can't handle that too
> bad. but don't resort to conducting personal attacks
> against me.
>
> In the olden day this thread would have led to a
> discussion about different types of paint. prepaint
> metal treatment processes, different kinds of baking
> scenarios, difficult applications such paint retention
> on a knurled lands and all sorts of interesting stuff.
> But now thanks to a few people
> discourse is stifled and it all turns into crap.
>
> This all goes to a larger issue. I've been on this
> list for years and it has become impossible to hold
> serious discussions on products and services because a
> small group turns to mud slinging. It's happened to me
> and to several other people before. Normally I'de be
> willing to stop responding in the name of peace and
> traquility but it's gone too far. I will keep this up
> until something gives.
>
> Javier
>
> --- Dennis Painter <dennis@hale-pohaku.com> wrote:
> > Shintaro's web page says he strips off the chrome.
> > Many on this list have
> > confirmed he strips off the chrome.
> >
> > You insist the photos show otherwise.
> >
> > I think in the eyes of just about everyone you have
> > questioned Shintaro's
> > trustworthiness.
> >
> > In my eyes your continual hounding of this issue on
> > this list is taking on
> > the appearance of a smear campaign.
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> > Javier Perez wrote:
> >
> > > What accusations!
> > > These are fair observations nothing more.
> > > Have I questioned the trustworthiness of anyone?
> > > Maybe it's you who should lighten up.
> > > Javier
> > >
> > >  Many trust worthy people have had
> > > > cameras done by him
> > > > and can attest that the chrome has been removed.
> > It
> > > > is very obvious with
> > > > the slightest nick. You are basing your
> > accusations
> > > > on a downloaded jpeg.
> > > >
> > > > Lighten up,
> > > >
> > > > John Collier
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, at 01:56 AM, Javier
> > Perez
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From your comments it looks like you haven't
> > read
> > > > my
> > > > > post. I linked to his sample html showing a
> > chrome
> > > > top
> > > > > painted black, not a brass top painted black.
> > > >
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In reply to: Message from Javier Perez <summarex@yahoo.com> (Re: [Leica] Shintaro)