Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/04/27

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: calling on the LUG to do a good deed: leica scholarship
From: Matthew Powell <mlpowell@directvinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 01:06:27 -0500

On Sunday, April 28, 2002, at 12:39 AM, Allan Wafkowski wrote:

> What I said was the the fellow was going to pay about $28,000 a year. 
> That statement appears to be true in fact, does it not? You don't 
> remember me itemizing the numbers, do you? No, of course not. But this 
> is all beside the point. The point is that a young man paying $28,000 a 
> year to go to school, and owning (one assumes) a Leica camera is not 
> going to qualify for the LUG most needy student scholarship.
No, that's the point. He's not "paying $28,000 a year to go to school."

He's paying, assuming he's technically considered "out of state," about 
$12k/year "to go to school." The rest is living expenses which would be 
incurred whether he is or not.

For instance, rent, insurance, car payment (necessary here in North 
Texas, where public transit doesn't exist) are about $12,000/year, and 
my tuition is a little under $4k. I'm not paying $16k "to go to school."

I mean, we're really arguing semantics here, but saying the guy is 
paying that much to go to school is misleading.

>  I can name three AIDS patients who can't afford their monthly 
> medication and who don't receive Medicaid. I know an old lady who eats 
> bread sandwiches (that's two slices of bread with nothing in between) 
> because she runs out of food at the end of each month. I know two 
> mentally ill brothers who live on $17,000 a year between them.
As do most of us, or people in similar situations. The solution is not 
to take the frustration out on one man for going to Berkeley.  The 
solution, for these, is to work for nationalized healthcare, like the 
rest of the civilized world.

> Before I piss myself off, let me ask you: Do you really think I want 
> "at least a $1,000" gathered for a student to go pester homeless people 
> in another country because the homeless people in California aren't 
> exotic enough?
Actually, I'm quite in agreement with you that tackling the homeless 
situation here is a worth goal. I understand the plight of the homeless 
to have become quite dire in San Francisco, having been herded away from 
several public areas they used to inhabit. I also favor Stephen Gandy's 
idea, and will be donating whatever I can should it come through.

But, being a full-time collge student and full-time server/bartender, I 
took issue with your characterization of the $28k being solely for 
"schooling."

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