Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/03/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]But isn't removing trees and blemishes what we used to do by retouching in the old days? Spotone, Marshal Colors, pencils and knives etc. where the tools then. Is portrait photography not make believe to some extent by retouching, the use of soft filters, short lighting, etc? I remember a student at Brooks asking "how far can we go with Spotone? The instructor replied: "if you are that good you can draw the entire picture for me". My objection to manipulation is placing the statue of Liberty on the rim of the Grand Canyon as well as deception in stealing others' work by changing the image substantially. Yesterday I photographed my house to test my new camera. In Photoshop I removed the newspaper that was still in the driveway. Was that unethical? Joseph Codispoti From: "Jim Brick" <jim@brick.org> > But that's the whole problem as I see it. As soon as you scan a film or > photograph using a digital camera, the next step is Photoshop before > printing. Once in Photoshop, well, the urge is there and 99% of the time, > the print you are printing has been modified to where it is not > representative of the original scene. > > I'm not saying that you, Tina or Ted, do this, but it is, I believe, the > general practice among a great many of the digital photography folks. > > In the darkroom, I do a lot of burning, dodging, contrast mask making, > bleaching, etc., but I don't remove trees or power poles, move things > around, change color completely, etc. > > I have had a transparency that was damaged, scanned, the damage repaired in > Photoshop and then printed from the fixed digital file. But no manipulation > was done other than remove the blotches that were caused by dirt that was > imbedded in the emulsion. I didn't process this transparency! > > All of my very large prints are drum scan - LightJet print, but with zero > manipulation. Nada. Between the scan and the print. > > Jim > > > >At 11:17 AM 3/24/02 -0800, you wrote: > > > >>I'd also add that, any photographer messing around and changing what reality > >>was compared to what he presents to the editor should have his weenie off! > >> > >>Ted Grant Photography Limited > >>www.islandnet.com/~tedgrant > At 02:32 PM 3/24/2002 -0500, Tina Manley wrote: > >....should have his (or her) weenie off. ;-) > > > >Tina > > > > > >Tina Manley, ASMP > >http://www.tinamanley.com > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html