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Subject: RE: [Leica] Bessa R2 New Features
From: "B. D. Colen" <>
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:42:10 -0500

Well, not every company does business the way Leica does. And I would guess
that the words "supply and demand" are as foreign to the Leica corporate
vocabulary as are the words "reasonably priced little accessories" - like
lens caps, body caps, etc. If Leica were familiar with the concept of supply
and demand, they would be cranking out the viewfinder magnifiers like there
was no tomorrow in order to meet demand. ;-)

B. D.

- -----Original Message-----
[]On Behalf Of Mike Gil
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Bessa R2 New Features

You assume they know about supply and demand.  Leica
has had the same price for the M6 for 10, 15 or 20
years.  Are you saying that Bessa would lower the
price if demand goes down but Leica does not do that.


- --- "Paul C. Brodek" <> wrote:
> Thanks to John Collier for the pointer to the Bessa
> R2 intro
> information.  A quick scan of the info & specs shows
> the following
> changes over the R & T:
> 1. M-mount body, with the body "throat" enlarged so
> there are fewer
> M-mount lens restrictions.  M-mount lenses which
> cannot be mounted
> are: Hologon 15/8.0, Super Angulon 21/4.0 and
> 21/3.4, first generation
> Elmarit 28/2.8 and Summicon-DR 50/2.0.  In addition
> to these, the T
> specs show that standard (non-ASPH) Summilux 35/1.4
> won't mount, and
> the R2 specs imply that the T has problems with some
> 35/2.0 Summicrons
> (7-element, pre-Asph).
> 2. Top cover, bottom cover and rear door are molded
> magnesium alloy to
> increase strength with minimum weight penalty.  Body
> itself uses a
> die-cast aluminum shell (as does R and T)  Body
> weight over R
> increases 30g to 425g; length and width specs are
> the same but height
> is listed as 3mm higher.
> 3. Film advance crank is ratcheted (R is not, T is).
> 4. Film rewind crank is smoother; implied smoother
> than R & T.
> 5. Body fits trigger winder (as does T).
> 6. Body covering is more "rubberized" for better
> grip.
> All finder- and meter-related specs appear to be the
> same as for the
> R.  The T meter specs show upper ISO limit as 1600;
> R & R2 go to 3200.
> It looks to me like a handy blend of the R & T.
> List price for black
> R2 body is 78,000yen (US$586) and 85,000yen (US$639)
> for the olive
> body.  R list price is 68,000yen (US$511), so the R2
> lists for 15%
> more than the R.  At B&W prices, currently $440 for
> the R, once
> initial demand spikes smooth out the R2 might sell
> for just over $500.
> I've always liked the idea of lower-priced entryways
> into Leica Land.
> I'll be interested to hear what Tom A. and others
> say once the info
> embargo is lifted.....
> Cheers,
> PB
> Paul C. Brodek
> Hillsdale, N.J. U.S.A.
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