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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Salgado to speak in Seattle Feb 16
From: Amilcar de Oliveira <amilcar@domain.com.br>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:20:32 -0300
References: <20020213171115.88621.qmail@web10207.mail.yahoo.com> <3C6AA5D2.DEFDEC50@earthlink.net>

I don't have the numbers but apparently the IMF's view is that since Latin
America is a greater risk than northern hemisphere countries, it should pay a
very nice premium. As a result, debts are unpayable...debt slavery anyone?

Amilcar


S Dimitrov wrote:

> I heard somewhere, that the yearly interest alone going to the IMF from
> latin America, is greater than the sum of the combined and total
> pilferage from the Colonial period.
> Any truth to that ?
>  Slobodan Dimitrov
>
> Mike Gil wrote:
> >
> > Patty,
> >
> > I've planted a lot of trees.  More to the point at
> > least here.  My ancestors where slauthered by invading
> > Spanish gold seekers in Peru.  Our history and much of
> > latin americas has come under the hammer of the sticky
> > finger politician.
> >
> > People in argentina are crying because they say the
> > world bank in some way encouraged the president to
> > funnel money to the cayman islands, funnel money to
> > his family business, and other financial instruments.
> >
> > People in latin american are poor because their
> > politicians make them not the US or the rest of the
> > world.  The ex-president of peru fleed to japan with
> > untold billions of money from the world bank and the
> > US.  And every president, congressmen, mayor has done
> > the same over the years.
> >
> > If it cost a $100 million dollar to build a road in
> > south america. $1 million goes to cheapened material
> > $500 thousand to workers $1 million to the
> > construction company. The rest goes to the many layer
> > of politician wanting a piece of the action.
> >
> > So in the end I blame the people themselves for
> > putting up with this behavior.  They need to rise and
> > take over the current corrupt political system.
> >
> > mike gil
> > --- Patricia Ternahan <ternahan@gentlelens.net> wrote:
> > > More to the point: what does Mike give? How many
> > > trees has he planted?
> > >
> > > For more accurate info on Salgado and how he views
> > > his work, see
> > > http://www.terra.com.br/sebastiaosalgado/
> > >
> > > trish
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: "Steve Unsworth" <mail@steveunsworth.co.uk>
> > > > Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 00:43:41 -0000
> > > > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > > > Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Salgado to speak in
> > > Seattle Feb 16
> > > >
> > > > Do you know how much Salgado donates to causes?
> > > No, I didn't think so.
> > > >
> > > > This is just about the worst troll I've ever seen
> > > on the LUG.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On
> > > Behalf Of Mike Gil
> > > > Sent: 12 February 2002 23:28
> > > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Salgado to speak in
> > > Seattle Feb 16
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's always interesting how socialist or
> > > non-classical
> > > > liberals always wants everybodies money except
> > > there
> > > > own to go to a cause.  Why does Salgado not give
> > > his
> > > > $1500 M camera and $1800 35mm ASPH 1.4 to his
> > > starving
> > > > and needy subjects.  He can easly buy a Pentax MX
> > > for
> > > > $200 plus a 35mm for less than a $100 and shoot
> > > with
> > > > that.
> > > >
> > > > I think its hard to feel compassion when your
> > > hiding
> > > > behind $3500 worth of equipment plus whats in your
> > > > bag.
> > > > mike
> > > >
> > > >
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In reply to: Message from Mike Gil <dtt2150@yahoo.com> (Re: [Leica] Re: Salgado to speak in Seattle Feb 16)
Message from S Dimitrov <sld@earthlink.net> (Re: [Leica] Re: Salgado to speak in Seattle Feb 16)