Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/02/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ain't that the saaaad truth!:-) B. D. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Jeffery Smith Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:34 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: RE: [Leica] natural war Two guys approaching 60 in a p***ing match? You'd better stand pretty close to each other. Even then, it's likely to turn into a fa**ing match. <g> Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of B. D. Colen > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:14 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: RE: [Leica] natural war > > > Well, George, I am absolutely NOT going to get into a p*****g match with > you...;-)....I too hope that one of these days humankind comes to > its senses > and we have a world without racism, sexual abuse, serial killing, flying > airplanes into buildings, and war. HOWEVER, I would argue that serial > killing is a perversion, not a natural state or activity, and flying > airplanes into buildings is an extremely rare and bizarre > behavior. Racism, > unfortunately, seems pretty natural and obviously has a great deal to do > with fear of the different, and the ugly human need to look down > on another > person or group - and sexual abuse is, I suppose, failure of societal > taboos. > > Anyway, it would be nice if we could eliminate all these ills, natural or > otherwise. > > But, hey, someone has nominated George W. Bush and Tony Blair for > the Nobel > Peace Prize for waging war on terrorism and bringing peace to the world. > Guess I must have missed the day they accomplished the later. ;-) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of George > Lottermoser > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:58 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: [Leica] natural war > > > bdcolen@earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)2/4/022:43 PM > > > Well, George...Sad as it may be, re-read your list and consider > > when in human history there was a time and place when each of > > those items wasn't on the list. War is horrible and ugly, and > > inhumane - but quite obviously not inhuman. There seems to be > > something about the human animal - and maybe it > > is our animal nature - that repeatedly drives us to war, > > despite all the eons worth of information we have indicating > > what a stupid, disastrous, activity it is. Would that it were > > not so. > > I will preface this note with my sincere and utmost respect for > your thoughtfulness, consitency, realism and pragmatism on almost > every subject you comment on. When you speak, I listen. > > And I must agree that war seems a very human, possibly only human > (and some of those ants, I guess) endeavor. I simply must hope > that it doesn't fall into the category of "natural" behavior; and > further that we humans will, at some point get the "stupid, > disaterous" part of your message. I have a hard time imagining > stupid, disasterous behavior as natural. I guess I'm the pervert. > > Maybe we should add: > racisim is as natural as breathing > sexual abuse is as natural as breathing > serial killing is as natural as breathing > flying commercial airliners full of passengers into office towers > is as natural as breathing > etc > > On topic - The best documentary photography (journalism, cinema, > etc.) for me, has always served as a barometer to illustrate > through comparison and contrast the line between the healthy and > natural and perverse. > > George > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html