Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/01/24

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica R8 vs. Nikon D1x
From: "Ernest Nitka" <enitka@twcny.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:56:30 -0500

I hear ya'
If I had a dime for every time I was thought to be a wildman ( mind you I am
not accusing you of same) I'd be rich - my wife would them take that money
and get a divorce!!

My favorite local camera store is staffed with patient, knowledgeable
folks - the owners actually.  They are always trying to sell me the latest
of their products.  I don't know if it's because I'm a professional ( not in
photography) and they think I have much extra disposable $ or is because
they HAVE seen me in action buying stuff that makes no sense?  Will never
know but then again no one is holding a gun to my head to go into the place.
In fact I often use the excuse that I need more fixer, etc to pay a visit.
:)  well today it's actualy both more fixer and hypoclearing stuff :)

ernie nitka
http://home.twcny.rr.com/nitka

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of B. D. Colen
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:46 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica R8 vs. Nikon D1x


Nope.

I know I am viewed as a 'bit' of a raving wildman at times - well, probably
quite often. But given all the thrashing about at one point or another about
commercialism on the LUG, about Ebay, etc., I don't know that my response to
Nigel's sales pitch was at all out of line. No, he didn't say "I am selling
R8s and this is the price." Instead, he set up a strawman, knocked it down,
and left the R8 standing. This wasn't you making the comparison, or some
other LUGer with no financial interest in the outcome of the comparison'
this was a DEALER - someone whose meals and rent/mortgage depend upon the
number of Leica cameras he sells.

So should a LUGer - including a dealer - respond off-list to someone who
expresses interest in perhaps purchasing a particular lens? Why not. Let's
just skip the on-line not-very-subliminal sales pitches.

And, BTW, I have nothing against Nigel. I don't know Nigel. I assume Nigel
is a great guy personally and a great guy to do business with.

B. D.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Ernest
Nitka
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:27 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica R8 vs. Nikon D1x


BD - what would you say to the following scenario:
person on LEG, LUG asks a question about a lens or body - he/she is thinking
about this item for possible future purchase.  Would it be shameful for
someone also on the list to contact that person by private email and offer
to sell them that very item?  ernie

Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica R8 vs. Nikon D1x


OF course Nigel should stay - what shouldn't stay are blatant ads in the
guise of friendly advice. ;-)

B. D.

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