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Subject: Re: [Leica] PAW week 4 Steve Unsworth
From: Andrew Schroter <schroter@optonline.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:41:33 -0800
References: <000001c1a380$3a9a0bc0$92d380d9@steveuns>

Text at the bottom, please.
AGS
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Unsworth" <mail@steveunsworth.co.uk>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:06 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] PAW week 4 Steve Unsworth


> Mark
>
> I added the technical details purely because a few people said that they'd
> like to know more about what was behind the image.
>
> The subjective text I've added is just a bit of whimsy on my part and
isn't
> intended to be an accurate description of what I think of the photograph.
> E.g. in alt3 I could have mentioned that when taking the shot I had tried
to
> balance the statue's little finger on the left with its penis to the right
> of the leg. Of course I made that up. It only occurred to me, as usual,
that
> it worked that way when I did the scan. I _do_ admit to wanting the member
> in the shot when I took it. This was purely because someone last week
> mentioned that anything was allowed in PAW provided it was 'decent' :-)
>
> Do I think my photographs would be weaker without the buid up? Not really
I
> assume that most people will just read the text and then ignore it.
>
> But you do make a valid point, do other people have any thought on what
> should be provided and where?
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Mark
> Rabiner
> Sent: 22 January 2002 18:31
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] PAW week 4 Steve Unsworth
>
>
> Steve Unsworth wrote:
> >
> > Week 4 is now available at...
> > http://www.steveunsworth.co.uk/PAW/week_04.htm
> >
> > Alternative 1
> > http://www.steveunsworth.co.uk/PAW/week_04alt1.htm
> >
> > Alternative 2
> > http://www.steveunsworth.co.uk/PAW/week_04alt2.htm
> >
> > Alternative 3
> > http://www.steveunsworth.co.uk/PAW/week_04alt3.htm
> >
> > Full index at...
> > http://www.steveunsworth.co.uk/PAW/index.htm
> >
> > All taken in or around the Louvre here in Paris.
> >
> > Comments and criticisms more than welcome.
> >
> > Steve
>
> It's a big caption issue here for me. A big case of captions narrowly
> defining images which could've had a broader meaning if they could not
> be so easily: written off.
>
> When we click picture we are greeted by information; technical and
> subjective.
> Then we scroll down and experience the full picture.
>
> I'd show them the pictures first.
> Then tell them what to think about it.
> Give the pictures a chance to stand by themselves and do their
> picture-like thing.
>
> Are the captions and words in there because the photographer fears the
> pictures would be weaker without the buildup?
> The photographer wants the picture to me to us what it exactly means to
him?
> In my opinion your pictures would easily stand by themselves - they are
> quite strong and effective.
> The captions and words above the images weaken them.
>
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