Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/12/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Tim - Interesting cultural split. I don't know that it's a matter of ethical high horse. I think it has more to do, in the U.S., with noting that if someone is paid by demonstrators to promote their cause he/she is, in effect, a demonstrator - and thus isn't in much of a position to cry 'foul' when the cops see it that way. B. D. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Tim Atherton Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:28 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: RE: [Leica] Who'd be a PJ in these troubled times? There has been a lot of discussion of this on European and US PJ lists. The feeling in the US (with some notable exceptions) is as per BD. The overall feeling in Europe and the UK is - of course he was a PJ - what's with the US Photographers on their ethical high horse all of a sudden. Two totally different cultures at work. Tim A - ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@ccapr.com> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:48 PM Subject: RE: RE: [Leica] Who'd be a PJ in these troubled times? > Before we all sign up to join the Free Morgan demonstrations, I would > point out one thing, which I would suggest puts a somewhat different > light on this: > > Morgan was NOT taking those photos as a PJ - he was taking those > photos as a paid publicist for Greenpeace. > > Morgan was NOT on site as a journalist. He was on site as a contract > employee of Greenpeace, hired by them to take photos of their action. > He was, in other words, hired by them to promote the allegedly - and I > stress allegedly - action they were staging. He was, therefore, very > much a part of that action. > > This one, folks, may have more to do with a freelance photographer's > failing to think before he took a job, than it does with suppression > of freedom of the press. > > B. D. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Walter S > Delesandri > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:08 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Cc: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: Re: RE: [Leica] Who'd be a PJ in these troubled times? > > > Jeezus!!! > While I have no use in general for liberal-eco-wacko causes, including > Greenpeace, this is reprehensible treatment for a journalist. We > >>DO<< have bigger worries to address in our country (and the > world?)...maybe this will > die out on it's own, or be thrown out of court. We hope. > Walt > (who likes to take pretty pictures of "uplifting", non-political subject > > material, and who is a registered republican in my county) (just > trying to keep the FBI away from my door!) > > > On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:41:28 -0800 rp johnson > <rpjohnson2@mindspring.com> wrote: > > > > > > http://www.epuk.org/news/2001/12/18morgan.html > > > > -- > > David Morton > > dmorton@journalist.co.uk > > > > ******************************************** > > Any relation? > > > > RP Johnson > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see > > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html