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Subject: Re: [Leica] Nathan's PAW 48 - what a real bookshop looks like
From: Nathan Wajsman <>
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 08:45:03 +0100
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Thanks for the kind comments and for defending me...But I must confess that I
agree with Ted's comments in general and the tilt in my shots was not
intentional, it was simply the result of shooting fast while talking to the


Pablo Kolodny wrote:

> well said Paul,
> on the other side it should be added that the classical architectural image
> is not the way we see nor the way feel our lives.
> tilting or not adds some other stuff we want to emphasize or not.
> since Nathan was not intended to cover an assignment for any Design mag but
> trying to get THE picture, I mean to take the bookstore atmosphere, shelves
> could be leaning wherever you want depending on the tilting and/or the angle
> of vision delivered by the lens.
> And I'm sure he got it as he felt in there, very interesting place, warm
> atmosphere. A really candid shot shot from a candid bookstore. Genuflection
> would make that photo as much better as less vivid, less interesting.
> Some rules are there to be broken, at least once in a while and Nathan's
> bookshop photos should fit there.
> regards
> --
> Pablo Kolodny
> > From: Paul Chefurka <>
> > Reply-To:
> > Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 11:49:25 -0500
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Nathan's PAW 48 - what a real bookshop looks like
> >
> > Nathan, I have to weigh in on the genuflection issue.
> >
> > I think the keystoning in your pictures is essential to their character.
> > It emphasizes the higgeldy-piggeldy nature of the shop's interior and
> > contents.  If you had bent your knees, two things would have happened to
> > the pictures.  First, unwanted foreground elements would have intruded, and
> > might have posed much greater aesthetic challenges.  Second, you would have
> > imposed a visual order on the photos that is at odds with the subject
> > matter.  The sense of charming clutter would have been diminished, much to
> > the detriment of the pictures' message and visual impact.
> >
> > While I agree that minimizing this effect is in general A Good Thing, we
> > shouldn't fall into the simplistic trap of criticizing it every time we see
> > it.  We must always consider visual effects within the context of specific
> > photographs.
> >
> > If we slavishly stuck to rules (for example not chopping peoples' heads
> > off), we'd never see another example of that classic Leica shot
> > "Disembodied Feet Walking on an Anonymous Street"...
> >
> > Paul
> >
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