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Subject: [Leica] Re: Re: I commend to your attention
From: Jim Brick <jim@brick.org>
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 22:50:17 -0800
References: <6u4t0u0dqfa25h2f2k3027g3d3m0u8ridf@4ax.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20011205170331.02a09e08@pop.alink.net>

Well, OK.

But I liked the pictures. What can I say? Indeed some were happy snaps, but 
good happy snaps. Others showed honest photographic work.

And I was being completely honest in my opinions. About everything.

I have generally stopped looking at web pictures because unless they were 
done at a very high level (good scanner/good Photoshop/good web 
layout/good...) even great photographers look lousy. And I have a good monitor.

And much of the pictures put on the web are simply not worth the effort to 
take the time to look at. When y'all make a fuss, I am inclined to go look. 
Then I might express my opinion. And remember, it is just my opinion.

And I always look at a few known LUG PAW (or other format) PRINTS that are 
always good. Like Godfrey, Nathan, Pascal, Brownlow...

Now if you want to see r-e-a-l-l-y good work, go to Sandy Carters web site!!!

http://www.sandycarterphotography.com/

Jim


At 10:57 PM 12/5/2001 -0600, Sonny Carter wrote:

>From: "Jim Brick"
>
> > Well... my opinion is that these photographs are every bit as good as 95%
> > of the PAW prints that are deluged on us weekly. Every time I look at the
> > PAW's, the "my web site is finally up", the "please look & comment", etc...
> > I have to bite my tongue. I'll look at these Nepali photos any day rather
> > than most of the aforementioned stuff.
>
>Jim, this list has a thousand members, and only a handful bravely go out 
>there and
>shoot new stuff each week, then scan or print and scan, learning all the 
>while.  They
>post their  material to the world, maybe to get some pointers and honest 
>criticism,
>or hopefully to get  congratulations when they've posted a nice shot.
>
>They  don't travel to exotic locations and shoot everything that moves; 
>they make
>honest efforts at capturing what they see in accessible locations.  One 
>guy travels
>for a few hours a week to get from his small town to a bigger place to do 
>the street
>photography he enjoys.  Others document life right in their neighborhoods.
>
>Some of the Nepali shots are nice.  Maybe B.D. was harsh, but just because 
>you two
>like to butt heads, I think you ought to reconsider before you denigrate 
>the members
>of this list who do make an effort to take and post pictures instead of merely
>pontificate.
>
> > If you don't like these photographs, then you probably don't like Tina's
> > either. But because Tina is on the list and Ron Geur isn't, you only
> > denigrate Ron.
>
>Ron Geur did not ask to be posted on this list.  He built a web site that 
>shows his
>probably expensive vacation.  Tina's work is NOT vacation photography.   She
>photographs for a purpose.
>
>If you want exotic, then I can certainly drag out pictures of people I took in
>Honduras, Mexico, Hong Kong, Germany, and Navajo-land and post them until 
>you put my
>name on ignore.
>
>However, I'll keep on shooting my little slices of life in the village of
>Natchitoches,where everyone knows my name; and I'll keep on posting my 
>Pictures A
>Week, because that effort reminds me what I took up photography for in the 
>first
>place: to take pictures.
>
>I usually respect your wise counsel, but this time I think  you blew it.
>
>Regards,
>
>Sonny
>http://www.sonc.com
>
>PAW at http://www.sonc.com/paw
>
>
>
>
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Replies: Reply from Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca> ([Leica] Re: I commend to your attention--Sandy Carter site.)
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