Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/12/01

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Piezo Plunge
From: David Rodgers <>
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 19:50:23 -0800
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This is one of the things I noticed right off with Piezography; the subtle 
(and sometimes not so subtle) differences depending on the papers used. I 
think there are more opportunities for different looks than in conventional 
b/w where there are few choices today. Toning of silver prints is always an 
option, but that's a lot of work. (I mean more than just selenium toning)

The second thing I liked was the fact that I was able to take the same 
image and have the first print from different papers turn out thanks to the 
excellent profiles available. Conetech supplied  2 sample sheets of 9 
different papers along with the inks. With conventional b/w I'd have burned 
more samples sheets than were supplied just doing test prints.

Finally, as you mention, there are different ink options out there. But the 
Cone inks suit me fine.   I'm not too good at developing my own profiles.


At 03:43 PM 12/1/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Different people see the same inks as different colors.  Jerry Olson on 
>the Piezo list complained for months about the sepia toned inks, but he 
>prints most of his work in a very cold, almost blue tone.  He has gone 
>with MIS inks for their cold tone but has to work up his own profiles for 
>each paper.  I love the warm tone of the inks that I get on some papers 
>like Tunbridge for all of my people photos, but the inks look totally 
>neutral to me on bright white papers like Epson Archival Matte.  The inks 
>do look different on different papers so my suggestion is to search the 
>archives of the Piezo list for recommendations for cold papers.  There has 
>been much discussion of this on that list.

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