Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/11/27

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Subject: Re: [Leica] OT:Photo grad school: now DUCK CINDY!
From: Guy Bennett <gbennett@lainet.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:43:24 -0800
References: <B8295253.16EA8%jbcollier@powersurfr.com>

>Excuse me, John, but I don't for a second begrudge her her success - she
>  found a terrific gimmick, she has worked very hard at self-promition,
>and it has made her rich and famous.


Her "gimmick," if you will, is that she works with a subject that is not
only central to the western tradition of art - the representation of women
- - it is also a subject with a powerful social resonance in most western,
"developed" countries, since the middle of the 20th century.


>That being said, I don't think much of her "art,"


Not wild about it myself.


>and I don't think she
>is very "talented," in the way I think you are using the term.


Everyone's entitled to their opinion.


>Clever,
>yes. But that's what makes for the art world.
>B. D.


That's too simple. The art world (like the photography world, the music
world, the film world, etc.) is too complex and multifaceted to written off
with a single, dismissive jibe. Do you honestly believe that all successful
artists lack talent and are merely "clever"?


>P.S. Enjoyed the song.


Me too!

Guy


>John Collier wrote:
>
>> OH goody, let's bash Cindy Sherman again! Let see....hmmm...how about a sing
>> along. I will write the first stanza and then perhaps everyone could take a
>> turn?
>>
>> Lead complainer in small caps and all the rest of you talented bums join in
>> on the all caps. Think more liturgy rather than Neil Diamond.
>> ----------------
>> She started small,
>>
>> AND WE HATE THAT!
>>
>> She is hard working,
>>
>> AND WE HATE THAT!
>>
>> She is very talented,
>>
>> AND WE HATE THAT!
>>
>> She explores social issues,
>>
>> AND WE HATE THAT!
>>
>> Her work is highly regarded outside of inbred photographic groups,
>>
>> AND WE HATE THAT!
>>
>> She is doing so well she really does not care what we think,
>>
>> OH AND THAT REALLY BURNS US UP!
>>
>> --------------
>>
>> Over to you Arthur :-)
>>
>> John Collier
>>
>> PS: Can we finish with a rousing rendition of "God Bless Anne Geddes" ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: ARTHURWG@aol.com
>>>
>>
>>>and yes,  the most dreadful of all, Cindy Sherman--
>>>who thanks to luck and pluck has managed to escape from the academic  world
>>>
>>
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