Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/11/27

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: WAS:noctilux halloween images NOW: bend the knees.
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:21:32 EST

You guys are starting to make me change my mind. I always felt the photographer should remain as inconspicuous as possible-using flash doesn't help.
Mounting a  flash in the rafters and using a remote  is a good solution and, of course, modern ttl with fast film makes the flash less noticeable.
Yet I will always try to remain as unobtrusive as possible.

> > Bill:I Shoot quite a bit of high school sport for a year
> book studio and have never heard a complaint's about the
> flash when using the newer ttl flash units. I wish that I
> had definitive reason  but shorter flash duration ,less
> wasted flash due to the zoom heads , or just the fact that
> by the time high school comes along the kids are so used to
> flash that they don't notice .
> I might add that yes I know that you can shoot much of this
> with the ambient light in a lot of gyms , but that also
> assumes that you are going to spend a good bit  of time in
> the dark room or in photoshop burning and dodging  each
> frame to get an  image and this is not an option in the
> modern world .
> And to add that many of our client are so used to "sharp"
> images that any subject movement , such as hand motion in a
> volley ball match , that the only the flash images are
> asept. to them .  When shooting in the best lit venue I am
> usually only get an ambient exposure of 250th at f2.8 with
> asa400 and this is a high light exposure , also you need to
> take into account that many  of the athlete I shoot are not
> pigmently chalanged there fore require an additional one to
> two stops of exposure. Also when you take into account the
> shorter contrast range of the digital  and in less you use
> flash to bring the exposure with in the  contrast range you
> get no asseptable images.
> Chuck 
> > >I cover high school and the 'pros' from the local AP and
> > papers all use
> > >flash with their D-1's. Don't they concern themselves
> > with the athletes?
> > 
> > How would using flash hurt the athletes?  I've seen
> > behind the scenes videos
> > with Sports Illustrated photogs that show how they rig
> > flash units over
> > basketball goals to help get better color shots.  I'm
> > thinking the flash is
> > more powerful, closer to the players, and more likely to
> > be in a direction
> > where the player is looking than some small flash on the
> > sideline in a
> > football game.
> > 
> > I don't know for sure one way or the other.  That's why I
> > ask.
> > 
> > 
> > Eric
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