Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/11/26

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Subject: Re: [Leica] OT:Photo grad school.
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 14:54:26 -0500
References: <3f.2477cd7.2932de66@aol.com> <v04011702b8274c27648d@[66.81.44.219]> <3C028A11.4080400@earthlink.net> <002701c176b3$4b8adda0$9740b8c7@nsula.edu>

Well, DAMN, Sonny, that's the best part of being on campus!!

SonC (Sonny Carter) wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 12:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT:Photo grad school.
> 
> 
> 
>>
>>Guy Bennett wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Though much of this activity is
>>>>
>>>without significance in the "real world," real world values are
>>>
> meaningless
> 
>>>in the academy: it is a self-validating system that generally does
>>>
> not
> 
>>>recognize non-academic achievement.
>>>
>>>
>>B.D. replied:
>>Actually, my experience has been precisely the opposite - While I
>>
> agree
> 
>>entirely that virtually no one in the 'real world' gives a rat's
>>
> behind
> 
>>about your academic credentials once you get past your first job, I
>>
> have
> 
>>found that some folks in academia will grant 'equivalence' to
>>
> certain
> 
>>real-world accomplishments when hiring for positions in academia. At
>>both Harvard Medical School, where I was briefly the Director of
>>
> Media
> 
>>Affairs and had an academic appointment, and at MIT, where I teach,
>>
> my
> 
>>credentials in the world of journalism are viewed by academics as
>>
> being
> 
>>the equivalent of a doctorate in their world. The bottom line, I
>>believe, is that at these particular institutions the academics have
>>enough self-confidence to understand that they know what they know,
>>
> and
> 
>>that I know what I know, and what I know is as much of value to
>>
> students
> 
>>as what they know. (Does that make sense:-) )
>>
>>B. D.
>>
> 
> B.D.
> My experience mirrors yours in this regard.  Here at NSU, while not
> faculty, I'm included in faculty meetings, committees and many other
> aspects of academic life.  The only thing I don't have to do that they
> do is march in the commencement.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sonny
> 
> 
> 
> 
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